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Old 04-24-2009, 09:51 AM
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that's SO true!
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But I will be more than happy to share thoughts on anything! Just don't mind the drool
I'll spam the board with my questions whenever I feel so. Answer at your discretion.
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Kinda like epic and UT3.....WTH textures and sht are locked?
locked textures? I've got 3.3Gb of .dds textures to edit at your heart's content. The only problem is editting the pkmdl models. (you like file format reverse engineering?)
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uhg need to dig the fan captured textures and do my "Punisher" Enforcer pistol....
If you just want to edit dmg/ROF/ammo, that's easy=a good start. If you want to change its looks, give up (see comment above).
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God mode is boring and should only be used for testing.
Or by 455holes like me who love mindless butchery.
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There's 3 ways to mod the pistol from my view point, give a explanation of some kind as to why the bullets shared with the C96 do more damage from the Colt either a magical boost from the player, or a magical boost to the colt itself or a tech explanation like mag rail or gas assist. But it would be easier to say its been heavily modified to use rifle rounds, 5 shots a clip like the rifle or 6 shots like a 6 shooter.
mag rail=?
tech explanation:
-longer barrel=more speed=power
-vs damaged/overused barrel (more friction/gas leaks)

When I said "can you fit a rifle round in a gun handle" I didn't mean that the problem is how many rounds you can stack in a clip, but instead that the bullet are contained in the clip and the clip is contained in the gun handle and the gun handle in contained in the hand. So would the handle fit in the hand?
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I know there are a few pistol mods that use crazy sized bullets.
600 NE?
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One of thigns that still has me up a tree in UT04 is ammo as I can not get ti to change what ammo a weapon uses without other weapons having trouble....morons go and make ammo a child class of the weapon throwing off easy codeing looking to fix it but so far what info I found dose not work...or I am doing it wrong...
ammoPICKUP being a child of the weapon is somehow defendable (weapon pickup gives ammo, ammo pickup=weapon pickup with different looks)...but ammo itself shouldn't even be a class, just a number in the AmmoAmount array. WTF did they come up with this time?...
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I think just tweaking the pistols a bit would result in what I am after,speaking of which can you have it use 2 ammo per shot making it more pistol ammo hungry?
The line is (in Colt1911.lua): w._ammoInMagazine = w._ammoInMagazine - 1
Think you can manage on your own?
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And prehpas defang the shotgun some.....that thing is much to OTT....
That's your point of view. Many people say it's the only way to beat Zimmermann in hard mode. (Personally I'll wait until I've finished my mod before playing in hard)
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For me its gameplay options>all weapons the same, really just died a little inside from Fallout 3's weapons all practically being the same I just like to see more differentiation in like weapons..and weapons in genreall.
Ok, both assault rifler are similar,but do you use the minigun like the .38 rifle? Shishkebab like fatman? Flamer and shotgun?
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I don't so much as code but cut and past, bad habbits I picked up doing unreal 1 ages ago and still I can not process code so well but there again I been codeing on and off for the last few years.
You begin to know how to code by knowing how to copy&paste the right things.
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Took my PC....and shes in need of a new PSU..... the old one is getting ready to stop working its got capacitor whine and signs the slows down the higher the whining gets I been checking tis volts and its seems like its enough to run it for now...
Do you get continuous whining or just during gfx stresses? 'Coz mine whines when the gfx card does intensive work... Did check whether it's from the psu of the gfx card though.
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(what you said went over my head)
....bbbwwaaiinnnssssssss......*shuffle shuffle* LOL
1-"I am thus I rush toward the player."
2-Did you check its psu?
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I still think the AI in System shock 2 was better....
It wasn't built for confort. It wasn't built for finesse. It was built for one thing only: total destruction. And for this, the serious sam AI is perfectly fit.
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Speaking of ODD fps/games have you played Dark Messiah, there's another game I loved despite itself I'll take wonky innovation over blantly tried and safe designs anyday!!?
No. If you want innovation you can try zeno clash, tower of goo, crayon,perhaps dead space, monster madness...'Kay those aren't fps.
BTW: I loved CB jericho, me.

EDIT: I forgot to say: the luger is a P08 not a C96

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Old 04-24-2009, 07:41 PM
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that's SO true!
*hands you aspirins* It can get worse as well

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I'll spam the board with my questions whenever I feel so. Answer at your discretion.
Mmmmm spammmm....*nom nom nom*

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locked textures? I've got 3.3Gb of .dds textures to edit at your heart's content. The only problem is editting the pkmdl models. (you like file format reverse engineering?)
In UT3 they locked some of the textures I tried to export the pistol in DDS format and editor would no allow it it was quite annoying pissed me off enough well that and how they made it to go back to UT04 and focus on it more.
All I can do is some basic level of skinning
http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/200...1/skins-alive/


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If you just want to edit dmg/ROF/ammo, that's easy=a good start. If you want to change its looks, give up (see comment above).
Thats what I go after first, the way I mod I make up crazy explanations for relatively simple and easy mods.
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Or by 455holes like me who love mindless butchery.
I can only handle so much redundancy before I need to do something else,thus why I hate no death bioshock as much as I do....

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mag rail=?
tech explanation:
-longer barrel=more speed=power
-vs damaged/overused barrel (more friction/gas leaks)
.... ok Hi tech,tech and magic

Generally those need visual updates then again so would a magnetic rail system (bullet is fired or assisted using magnetism) but if you can micronize it and have it inside the weapon overhauling how it looks is not as badly needed...since I has little skill in changing skins much less models ><.

For Necrovision HI-tech explanations might not work, but a magic based one where you explain the pistol is a keep sake and due to all the magic circleing around its been enhanced.

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When I said "can you fit a rifle round in a gun handle" I didn't mean that the problem is how many rounds you can stack in a clip, but instead that the bullet are contained in the clip and the clip is contained in the gun handle and the gun handle in contained in the hand. So would the handle fit in the hand?
Problly not but when its dual wielded the clip is not seen reloaded..so we don't have to worry about such details just hammer out a better gameplay/fun balance

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600 NE?
Thinking more .50 cal pistol
http://www.popularmechanics.com/outd...s/1277336.html
http://duncanlong.com/science-fictio...ories/50ae.htm

And ya the Nitro as well...there was another one I saw....*goes to look* ...oh never mind its the 600 NE.


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ammoPICKUP being a child of the weapon is somehow defendable (weapon pickup gives ammo, ammo pickup=weapon pickup with different looks)...but ammo itself shouldn't even be a class, just a number in the AmmoAmount array. WTF did they come up with this time?...
I have a problem in UT04 I can't get minigun and a assault rifle to share ammo after some attempts and more research I found I need to disable bNoAmmoInstances.... but I am unsure how to implement it (weapon.bNoAmmoInstances or use it as a starting bool and set bNoAmmoInstances=false in the default properties)0-o had no luck getting something to work ><



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The line is (in Colt1911.lua): w._ammoInMagazine = w._ammoInMagazine - 1
Think you can manage on your own?
Ya once I get the damn utility , how big is it? I'm on dailup until I get back home...

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That's your point of view. Many people say it's the only way to beat Zimmermann in hard mode. (Personally I'll wait until I've finished my mod before playing in hard)
Ya but so far the game is rather easy but for a couple parts that are more buggy than they should be...

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Ok, both assault rifler are similar,but do you use the minigun like the .38 rifle? Shishkebab like fatman? Flamer and shotgun?
The ARs feel the same the pistols feel the same but for the .45 and the Silenced 10MM, the combat shotgun thats really a street sweeper (what they have in the game is not a shotgun its a STREETSWEEPER....shotgun 2 barrels<Combat shotgun<Street Sweeper) is my fav weapon that and the railway rifle.

The energy weapons are under powered even made a energy weapon mod that comes in a few versions of more than 50 files, the normal energy weapons and heavy energy weapons get a low,mid,high and high but balanced sets and I packaged all the single weapon mod files so people can mix and match how they want it...forgot the Prime lazer tho >>
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You begin to know how to code by knowing how to copy&paste the right things.
Ya but how mnay years to I ahve to cut and apste to understand WTF I am doing??

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Do you get continuous whining or just during gfx stresses? 'Coz mine whines when the gfx card does intensive work... Did check whether it's from the psu of the gfx card though.
It did it for my EVGA 8800 610MB super clock and the old ATI 3870 so its not my 400$ at the time of purchase and no I am not regretting it video card..., its the PSU whats really bad the reason I have lowered my usage of it is when I am playing, when I play a game a it goes to load a level it will stop whining and the computer acts as its its trying to catch its breath for a few seconds before being able to finish loading.
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1-"I am thus I rush toward the player."
2-Did you check its psu?
My PSU is going..I try and give it a jolt by sticking my fingers in a socket..but it only gives me a slight buzz....

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It wasn't built for confort. It wasn't built for finesse. It was built for one thing only: total destruction. And for this, the serious sam AI is perfectly fit.
I was talking about Bioshock not necrovision in regrads to SS2's AI being better. Necrovision is a solid no fuss no muss FPS.
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No. If you want innovation you can try zeno clash, tower of goo, crayon,perhaps dead space, monster madness...'Kay those aren't fps.
BTW: I loved CB jericho, me.
Innovation=well used designs be they new or not.


I think it was the lack of jump and the on the rails design and bad AI that just totally turned me off of it.... I couldn't play it it was just to boring/stupid
necrovision is great because the AI dose not matter since you are given large enough levels that can be explored and enough weapons to walk over the 3rd riche 3 times over .

Dark messiah got alot right,Halo 1 got alot right,Undying got alot right,Arx fatalis got alot right for a RPG heavy title. Most other games are far to simplified and lacking.....and I need to try Dead space sometime soon so I can whine on it...its no wonder I can hear the capacitors on my monitor and PSU crying...
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EDIT: I forgot to say: the luger is a P08 not a C96
Ya I have FO3 on the brains again..... I need to check and see if I can find my saves after I had to reinstall my OS.... see if I can try and figure out how the hell to mod weapons on it again...doing basic tweaks is easy but good god I could not figure out how to add poison to a weapon...instead I put fire on it but meh.....I wanted to use radiation for my but radiation is only used to fck over the player.....and nothing else...god F03 is a watered down simplified mess..... *annoyed rant rant annoyed*
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Old 04-24-2009, 10:14 PM
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*hands you aspirins* It can get worse as well
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All I can do is some basic level of skinning
http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/200...1/skins-alive/
Ohh...Someone spend quite some time painting flames...
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Generally those need visual updates then again so would a magnetic rail system (bullet is fired or assisted using magnetism) but if you can micronize it and have it inside the weapon overhauling how it looks is not as badly needed...since I has little skill in changing skins much less models ><.

For Necrovision HI-tech explanations might not work, but a magic based one where you explain the pistol is a keep sake and due to all the magic circleing around its been enhanced.
Capacitors for railguns are quite bulky and couldn't fit in a pistol, at least not now, so I'm afraid you'll have to rely on magic.
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Ah, just .50 - nothing oversized lol.
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I have a problem in UT04 I can't get minigun and a assault rifle to share ammo after some attempts and more research I found I need to disable bNoAmmoInstances.... but I am unsure how to implement it (weapon.bNoAmmoInstances or use it as a starting bool and set bNoAmmoInstances=false in the default properties)0-o had no luck getting something to work ><
I have 2 problems with UT04:
1-I call it UT3
2-I hate this game
Then, could you PM me/post weapon.uc+minugun+asrifle? (kinda lazy to reinstall a game just to extract 3 .uc files)
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Ya once I get the damn utility , how big is it? I'm on dailup until I get back home...
75kb compressed
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Ya but how mnay years to I ahve to cut and apste to understand WTF I am doing??
I think it took me 3-4 years. I started with serious sam, kudos to croteam for giving their c++ source code to the modders...ended up 4 years later making my own programs.
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when I play a game a it goes to load a level it will stop whining and the computer acts as its its trying to catch its breath for a few seconds before being able to finish loading.
"catch its breath"? What do you mean exaclty?
Thinking: capacitor whine when they are stressed, so no whine=no stress. No whine dure "catch breath" times means no stress on the PSU...Either you're/I'm misinterpreting something, or the voltages are too low and your mobo issued a standby (weird). You're sure you don't have those breaks on other computers as well?
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My PSU is going..I try and give it a jolt by sticking my fingers in a socket..but it only gives me a slight buzz....
This and lust for brains?...That sound like a bad case of frankeinstania. I suggest replacing your screws with worms or scarabaes.
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I need to try Dead space sometime soon so I can whine on it...its no wonder I can hear the capacitors on my monitor and PSU crying...
...And Gniarf begging for another box of aspirin...
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I could not figure out how to add poison to a weapon...
I suggest looking at the dart gun, it has poison dmg too. They probably have 2 variables for this 1-bDoesPoisonDmg and 2-The amount of dmg (a few thousands if I recall).
Worst case scenario: clone the dartgun, then change impact damage, model/texture/sound/ammo/etc....
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instead I put fire on it but meh.....I wanted to use radiation for my but radiation is only used to fck over the player.....and nothing else...god F03 is a watered down simplified mess..... *annoyed rant rant annoyed*
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Old 04-24-2009, 11:43 PM
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Painkillers ?! NOOOOOOOOOO !!
Its not like their made of lead and smell of sulfur....*hides something behind his back*

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Ohh...Someone spend quite some time painting flames...
Had to stay focused , so I focused on playing with flame descales until I got something right. Now I can and do decales in PSP 9.

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Capacitors for railguns are quite bulky and couldn't fit in a pistol, at least not now, so I'm afraid you'll have to rely on magic.
Naw micornized energy systems fit in their too
But for a game like this it doth not compute

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Ah, just .50 - nothing oversized lol.
LOL

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I have 2 problems with UT04:
1-I call it UT3
2-I hate this game
Its more like UT 3.1..... then again UT3 is what 3.9? 0-o ...
*looks at gears of war PC* epic.... YOU SUCK.......

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Then, could you PM me/post weapon.uc+minugun+asrifle? (kinda lazy to reinstall a game just to extract 3 .uc files)
Ya I'll have to dig im out you want just the weapon.uc files of the weapons and no fire modes ect?


Thanks!!!
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I think it took me 3-4 years. I started with serious sam, kudos to croteam for giving their c++ source code to the modders...ended up 4 years later making my own programs.
mabye in another 3-4 years I can write weapons from scratch on UT04
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"catch its breath"? What do you mean exaclty?
Thinking: capacitor whine when they are stressed, so no whine=no stress. No whine dure "catch breath" times means no stress on the PSU...Either you're/I'm misinterpreting something, or the voltages are too low and your mobo issued a standby (weird). You're sure you don't have those breaks on other computers as well?
The PSU is a few years old and only 550 watt, I need a new one badly.

It feels and sounds like the PC had a drop in power not enough to cause a hard reset or anything just acting strangely, I don;t have any other ATX v2+ PSUs to dose some testing .....


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This and lust for brains?...That sound like a bad case of frankeinstania. I suggest replacing your screws with worms or scarabaes.
It dose not seem to matter how much brains I eat...er...replace.... they all turn to goo after awhile


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...And Gniarf begging for another box of aspirin...
I suggest looking at the dart gun, it has poison dmg too. They probably have 2 variables for this 1-bDoesPoisonDmg and 2-The amount of dmg (a few thousands if I recall).
Worst case scenario: clone the dartgun, then change impact damage, model/texture/sound/ammo/etc....
I was still getting use to their strange and unintuitive editor(god fomm is so much easier to use), I'll have to look for the dart gun when I get it up and running.


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Old 04-25-2009, 01:32 AM
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Its not like their made of lead and smell of sulfur....*hides something behind his back*
Did I mention you forgot to turn that salad bowl off?
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Had to stay focused
Speakign of which, didn't we drift away from the original topic?
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Ah, just .50 - nothing oversized lol.
LOL
nonononononono a 14.5x114 pistol, that, THAT would be LOL .
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Its more like UT 3.1..... then again UT3 is what 3.9? 0-o ...
UT,UT2003,UT2004,UT3
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Ya I'll have to dig im out you want just the weapon.uc files of the weapons and no fire modes ect?
Dunno, anything related to what kind of ammo a gun uses.
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The PSU is a few years old and only 550 watt, I need a new one badly.
550W for a 88...That's a bit just but it should be fine though.
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It dose not seem to matter how much brains I eat...er...replace.... they all turn to goo after awhile
World of goo, bioware-implemented? Fu***ng lucky bastard! Tell me, how does it feel?
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I was still getting use to their strange and unintuitive editor(god fomm is so much easier to use)
I remember trying to mod some dialogs (something involving a complicated resurrection) with fomm; I don't remember why, but I couldn't do what I wanted. (Or was it that fomm wasn't even able to open and save correcly an archive, even without editting anything?)
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I is a he who lives under rocks
Let me blow some flour down there and we can fix the "lives" part.
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:58 PM
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Omg

Is that a quote war or a world record try for the longest post ever ?
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Old 05-15-2009, 07:49 PM
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Omg
What?
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Is that a quote war
Nope
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or a world record try for the longest post ever ?
No, it just helps knowing what we refer to in long multi-topic posts.
And anyway that's fun, isn't?
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