EXPENSIVE v1.2 - New challenging mod for WoTN-Ice and Fire

[Sirlancelot]

It seems jorko80 is not as active as raknefne. Well, time to wait patiently I have chosen Skald for now.

[jorko80]

Hi Sirlancelot! I've read what you wrote, but I thought you could figure it out yourself by looking the skills in the game . I don't think there is such skill.

[Sirlancelot]

What a shame! I'd love to retaliate several times with Bears or Bears alike. I guess I'd have to find a "Furious" creature.

[raknefne]

Oh Sirlancelot are u having a break from Trent hehe.... Only Crossworld has this retal skill. It makes units be like Griffens, pretty strong... I don't think I can play skald in Wotn, I get too focused on developing the song medal (bonus in x rounds with song). A bit annoying. I guess most use the song that gives gold against undead. Used a lot in vanilla. Song could be modded for balance too .... What difficulty do u play?

I managed to download now, np. Btw the only way to get to greenwort is thru the Big Spider? Now that Freedom Island are removed. In vanilla I got kind of annoyed loosing troops when entering portal and have to start new army...

[Sirlancelot]

Originally Posted by raknefne

Oh Sirlancelot are u having a break from Trent hehe.... Only Crossworld has this retal skill. It makes units be like Griffens, pretty strong... I don't think I can play skald in Wotn, I get too focused on developing the song medal (bonus in x rounds with song). A bit annoying. I guess most use the song that gives gold against undead. Used a lot in vanilla. Song could be modded for balance too .... What difficulty do u play?

Hehe, a break, yes. The game became a bit boring with the Ogre set. Almost all battles were cakewalk, and I used Call Phoenix + Archmage Magic Shield + Stone Skin 90% of the time.

Hard, this is my first time playing WotN.

[raknefne]

Bug with TRAP spell:

I have level 1 trap with level 2 medal, which gives 150-220 Damage or so with 5 Intellect as Mage. But enemy get poisoned by the level 1 trap, also the trap does same damage as level 2 trap (which I haven't developed yet). I tested with 3 enemies.

They game is a catwalk so far, as level 4-5 on Nordlig. The extra enemy stack on Hard compared with vanilla, I think will be seen a lot more later in game. Also when Freedom Islands are removed, so it is probably balanced, with easy at start but harder later. That's my first impression. I also noticed that Potions cost 3k and not 500 now... Gold is not a problem at all so far with the army of Soothsayer, Warrior Maiden, Jarl, Axe Thrower and Mistique... Did you reduce the gold from chests etc too? It looks low, but can't remember the amount from vanilla Wotn (low compared to Debir in Crossworld).

[jorko80]

Originally Posted by raknefne

Bug with TRAP spell:

I have level 1 trap with level 2 medal, which gives 150-220 Damage or so with 5 Intellect as Mage. But enemy get poisoned by the level 1 trap, also the trap does same damage as level 2 trap (which I haven't developed yet). I tested with 3 enemies.

They game is a catwalk so far, as level 4-5 on Nordlig. The extra enemy stack on Hard compared with vanilla, I think will be seen a lot more later in game. Also when Freedom Islands are removed, so it is probably balanced, with easy at start but harder later. That's my first impression. I also noticed that Potions cost 3k and not 500 now... Gold is not a problem at all so far with the army of Soothsayer, Warrior Maiden, Jarl, Axe Thrower and Mistique... Did you reduce the gold from chests etc too? It looks low, but can't remember the amount from vanilla Wotn (low compared to Debir in Crossworld).

I know about the trap. The medal traps make more damage and start poisoning on medal level2. I don't know why is that, but it's ok anyway. On impossible I have money problems starting on the 1st island . The gold from chests is also reduced. I never tried the game on hard and I don't know how it feels about the gold, but still I think it should be around 2 times more then on impossible. I think it'll be challenging even on hard later when you try buying some level 5 creatures ,spells and artifacts.

[raknefne]

Yes I can imagine game will be harder later, that's what my post also was about. Easy or easier first but harder later, that's the perfect balance. Saving money for later... Is level 4 vikings more expensive than vanilla? Paid 1400 gold or so for one.