List of objects for WIP maps: 3rd party contributors welcomed

[Spudkopf]

Expanding on a suggestion from Sita, I've been toying around with concepts for the large C type revetments.

I still need to suck this model into 3ds-Max to remove some of the awkward surfacing, and to degrade some of the sharp edges. May also have to loose some of the barrel detail around the entrance but this gives you a general idea as to what I'm working towards.

Most pictures that I have found of WWII barrel lined revetments (fortifications) are dug into the terrain and the barrels act as shoring material to prevent the earth from collapsing back in, working with this concept I've placed a rammed earth berm feature around the structure.

[Cloyd]

Looks great Spud!

[Pursuivant]

In one of the aerial photos Gitano posted there were some C-shaped revetments with straight sides and wide, possibly flat tops, like old fortifications. They'd be good low poly objects.

Sadly, its hard to make a low poly object using rounded forms, and its hard to create a decent illusion of a rounded form using textures.

[Spudkopf]

Still trying to refine the c type revetment, culled a few polys but then added some, not sure about it yet.

[Spudkopf]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

In one of the aerial photos Gitano posted there were some C-shaped revetments with straight sides and wide, possibly flat tops, like old fortifications. They'd be good low poly objects.

Sadly, its hard to make a low poly object using rounded forms, and its hard to create a decent illusion of a rounded form using textures.

This one......



I could probably build that from what I'm currently building.

[Spudkopf]

Oh and remember my first scale drawing.......

[_1SMV_Gitano]

Originally Posted by Spudkopf

This one......

I could probably build that from what I'm currently building.

These ones too were made of stone. In some cases they were reinforced with earth on the external wall, as the picture shows. There were plenty of these in Axis MTO airfields, mainly in Italy. They should be able to house a medium bomber like e.g. Ju88/He111/CantZ1007

[Spudkopf]

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano

These ones too were made of stone. In some cases they were reinforced with earth on the external wall, as the picture shows. There were plenty of these in Axis MTO airfields, mainly in Italy. They should be able to house a medium bomber like e.g. Ju88/He111/CantZ1007

Just a quick and dirty proof of concept based on the previous model, maybe this design as the default as it will use less polys......

[Spudkopf]

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano

These ones too were made of stone. In some cases they were reinforced with earth on the external wall

Well thus far I've been designing the large type 3 "C" revetment around the 200 litre oil drum idea, but using a stone wall with rammed earth would be far easier to do and have other benefits like.....

1. Use far less polys

2. Be easier to skin

3. By changing the skin (grass, wood, concrete, etc) the same revetment could be used in other theaters

4. In the end can be made to look overall more realistic at all viewing distances including from inside the cockpit due to less reliance on circular features (IMO)

So I'd probably prefer to go in that direction, sticking to stone/cement for the larger revetment and then instead using the oil drum method to build the smaller type 1 "square walled" revetment which again with different skinning could be re-utilised in multiple theaters?

So what's your opinion?

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano

There were plenty of these in Axis MTO airfields, mainly in Italy. They should be able to house a medium bomber like e.g. Ju88/He111/CantZ1007

Here's the current revised 200 litre oil drum revetment, using basically the existing dimensions of the original design but with a hexagonal internal wall, as you can see still fits a Ju88 or a He111 comfortably.

[Spudkopf]

Here's a stone one I threw together.....