Over-revving the FW 190 D9 1945

[RPS69]

Originally Posted by Woke Up Dead

Hmm, I don't think I can agree with reducing power to go faster, that seems very illogical. Reducing pitch when you exceed the planes maximum level speed at a given velocity, sure, but power?

If the governor is doing his job, and the propeller is feathered at the end of the dive, there is no point on keeping the throttle maxed.
Also, maybe not on the sim, but it is an established procedure to recover from a dive.

[Bolelas]

Unless you are doing a kamikaze atack, you need to stop accelerating, and need also to reduce the speed, or you will not be able to pull up free of damage.
One other thing, dont know if it is implemented on the SIM: On a dive, if you nont need much speed, you still must have at least some 30% of throttle in order to avoid overheating. The objective is to have some fuel burning, and lubricating the sistem. That can happen in a carr to. If someone is only windmilling the prop, high revs, may cause damage. Need fuel on.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Bolelas

Unless you are doing a kamikaze atack, you need to stop accelerating, and need also to reduce the speed, or you will not be able to pull up free of damage.
One other thing, dont know if it is implemented on the SIM: On a dive, if you nont need much speed, you still must have at least some 30% of throttle in order to avoid overheating. The objective is to have some fuel burning, and lubricating the sistem. That can happen in a carr to. If someone is only windmilling the prop, high revs, may cause damage. Need fuel on.

If the engine was a 2Stroke(where fuel acts as lubrication), maybe.
On a 4 Stroke you can cool the engine by enriching the mixture, the oil pump on the other hand is usually driven by the crankshaft hence still works at high rpm, independent whether the tb is wot or closed.

That is, at least, my understanding - please feel free to go into further detail.

[Bolelas]

I read in some manual about engines: But not 100%sure. I will try to find it out so we can discuss the subject. maybe in a few days when i have time.

But in the spitfire manual it says that dives must have some 30% throttle, i have copy from a game i bought for MS Flight Simulator 9.

[Jumoschwanz]

The injections and carburetors for internal combustion engines have idle circuits, so even when the throttle is turned all the way off the engines will "idle". This puts in the correct amount of fuel for idling, just as the correct amount of fuel-to-air is put in at every rpm and throttle load.

You guys are starting to talk about stuff you know nothing about, which is the norm for internet forums.

Woke screws up and gets an La7 on his butt flying solo, then blows his engine trying to run away, both novice moves, but of course it isn't his fault, it is his aircraft's fault, another novice assumption.

Aces don't ask questions, they either know the answers or they are able to figure them out on their own.

[IceFire]

I'm sure that makes everyone feel real good...

Moving right along. I tried the test one time and so far no engine blow out. Might be a random component to this?

[Woke Up Dead]

Originally Posted by IceFire

I'm sure that makes everyone feel real good...

Moving right along. I tried the test one time and so far no engine blow out. Might be a random component to this?

I'm getting it pretty consistently in QMB on the Pacific Islands map. I use time acceleration to make the climb faster.

We're getting a bit off topic here, the issue isn't diving in general; RPS69 and Bolelas have pointed out the simple fix for this which I've been using in other planes: reduce prop pitch. The issue is why the auto features in all other German planes manage to keep their engines from getting wrecked in similar power dives, including in the FW-190 1944, but they don't get it done and force the pilot to do things manually in a power-diving FW-190 1945. Nothing in the original readme or in the 4.11 readme that's specific to the FW-190 1945 overheating differently, just general new overheating advice for 4.11.

[Jumoschwanz]

You don't know what you are talking about.

The 45' D9 with MW50 injection runs cooler and is more reliable than the 44' D9.

If you run on a hot map you can get any aircraft to overheat and blow up, I did it more than once with a 109g2 just yesterday.

Different aircraft are different machines and they will all need different techniques to fly.

Standing around scratching your head and wondering why two different aircraft work differently is about the level chicken-little works with.

You started the thread complaining about how you blew your engine running from an La-7 online, then when no experienced pilots were blowing engines you make up a QMB test for the aircraft. You keep changing your story and your methods to keep the thread going and keep yourself the center of the circus. And it is all a farce anyway because you are not even able to report accurate information.

If DT wastes their time whenever a dilettante like yourself can't figure out how to tie your shoes then the next patch will not come out until 2020.

[Woke Up Dead]

Here's a recording of what it looks like, for those still interested. Recording does not capture me turning on the MW50 for some reason, but I do it right at the beginning after I throttle down.

[majorfailure]

Originally Posted by Jumoschwanz

You don't know what you are talking about.

The 45' D9 with MW50 injection runs cooler and is more reliable than the 44' D9.

If you run on a hot map you can get any aircraft to overheat and blow up, I did it more than once with a 109g2 just yesterday.

Different aircraft are different machines and they will all need different techniques to fly.

Standing around scratching your head and wondering why two different aircraft work differently is about the level chicken-little works with.

You started the thread complaining about how you blew your engine running from an La-7 online, then when no experienced pilots were blowing engines you make up a QMB test for the aircraft. You keep changing your story and your methods to keep the thread going and keep yourself the center of the circus. And it is all a farce anyway because you are not even able to report accurate information.

If DT wastes their time whenever a dilettante like yourself can't figure out how to tie your shoes then the next patch will not come out until 2020.

You seem to know the answer to WokeUpDeads problem - so if you would care to enlighten us, we could all learn.