4.13 development update discussion and feedback

[nic727]

I never asked them to work 24/24 and 7/7... It was just an idea to make something modern with our favorite game. It can be in spare time like they are doing right now, or it can be a completely new team of volunteer. I could be in, but not now, maybe in two years. But like I wrote before, it was just an idea.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by nic727

I never asked them to work 24/24 and 7/7... It was just an idea to make something modern with our favorite game. It can be in spare time like they are doing right now, or it can be a completely new team of volunteer. I could be in, but not now, maybe in two years. But like I wrote before, it was just an idea.

It's a nice sentiment. But you have to realize that building a whole new game from scratch, as done by volunteers, would take many years. It's problematic because by the time such a project was brought to fruition... the technology would be out of date again and it'd look aged.

There are plenty of indie game developers out there, small 2-3 person teams, but they tend to do small scale games. Certainly nothing approaching simulation level. It's complex stuff.

I think we have to be thankful we have something as solid as IL-2 1946 to work with. It's not as pretty as the newer stuff but the basics of it are still solid.

If we want to talk about visual upgrades... then upgrading the stock texture artwork for vehicles, aircraft, and the maps would go a long way to making the game look more beautiful without a game engine re-write. Something that can be done piecemeal.

[Treetop64]

Originally Posted by nic727

I never asked them to work 24/24 and 7/7... It was just an idea to make something modern with our favorite game. It can be in spare time like they are doing right now, or it can be a completely new team of volunteer. I could be in, but not now, maybe in two years. But like I wrote before, it was just an idea.

Nic, you're missing the point.

The near-whimsical manner in how you talk about it glosses over the sheer scope of the task. Imagine the suggestion of building a brand-new modern nuclear aircraft carrier for the U.S. Navy on an old structure (with boilers) that was originally built as a seaplane tender, and that it could just be done by a bunch of hobbyists on their own spare time. As absurd as that sounds, that is akin to the sheer lopsidedness of your suggestion.

It's fine that you're so impressed by War Thunder's visuals (though there are better options available in that regard...), but that's an entirely different game, much more current, and with it's own structure specifically built to handle those visuals that you like so much.

IL-2's environment can indeed be improved, but overhauling it to such a degree would constitute an entirely new product (i.e. BoS, Eagle Dynamics, etc...), and renders the idea of doing such work in IL-2 redundant.

[The Radge]

Hello!
I would like to ask DT, what is estimated time of the 4.13 release?

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

About this 'upgrading engine' discussion... I'd imagine, that there are people out there, who could programm external approaches, which work with the game graphics as they are... say like postprocessing etc. We have Bloom effects already available for DirectX ... something like that.

[ECV56_Guevara]

Hey Caspar! Where were you ? Get back to work!
Seriously, for some people effects are at the top of the requests. For other of us, there is no need to improve them. A few days ago I reinstalled Age of Empires II, just to play a few games again. It was a classic, of course there new games of the same genre, but AoE still got something.
I want more inmersion but in a different way, perhaps airborne radar, navigation aids, manable flak.
Caspar, please, tell us.. will be a surprise in the patch???


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[Sita]

Originally Posted by ECV56_Guevara

Hey Caspar! Where were you ? Get back to work!

LoL

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Caspar, please, tell us.. will be a surprise in the patch???

If so - it would be a surprise for me too.

I must admit, I'm a bit out of the current development, just because of private issues... almost since a year now. Have some minor projects ongoing, thats all. Hope, I can catch up some (not so far away) day.

[Sita]

we miss U Caspar)