2014 - il-2 4.09m online - anyone interested ?

[Treetop64]

Originally Posted by RPS69

It's the plane I flied most from the beginning of the sim.
Now the main maneuver that I mastered on it, that allowed me to vanquish one on one a spit IX or a La-7 at low altitude, is imposible to do it anymore since 4.10. It will allways enter into a spin. On 4.09 it works like a charm.

If by flying smart, you mean flying it as if it was a 109, then it is no more a 190. And I hate flying that way, since it is of no practice use for a JaBo. You have to go low and survive.

You've just resoundingly confirmed the point that Jumoschwanz made earlier.

The bolded part is the problem. It's nice that you were able to do that in an earlier version of the game, but that's just not representative of how historical FW performed against such types. In the FW, deliberately engaging in a turn fight against dedicated turn fighters - especially the likes of Spits and late-model Lavochkins - was a death sentence. Trying to keep up with such types in turn fights would invariably see the FW flop over. If you were able to turn with them while in a FW, then either the FW was turning too well, or the others weren't turning well enough. Reducing the FW's sustained turn performance and increasing it's vertical performance was the correct thing for the devs to do.

If you want a turn fighter, then you simply need to fly something else. The 190 can turn-fight in a pinch, but only to a limited degree, and that's not it's strength, anyway. It utterly dominates in vertical fights.

Complaining about the FW because it no longer flies the way you want it to do is like complaining that a top-fuel dragster can't compete in circuit racing with F1 cars.