IL2 Mod Makers and Daidalos should Unite

[ECV56_Guevara]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyWhiskey

I'm not sure what limitations there are in terms of quality with the HSFX B-17s or the B-24, but I think people just want to fly a historical bomber, other than the JU-88, He-111, or Japanese ones.

Actually, I thought the new bomber mod (can't remember the actual name) for HSFX is pretty nice. I'm not a bomber guy, but it all worked fine for me when I flew bomber.

I know the developers are Russian, but no B-17, yet you have flyable even the most obscure Russian prototype aircraft that never even flew?

People want to fly what they want to fly. As example, some pilots wanted the Ik3. was significant in numbers? No. Was historical relevant? for them yes. So they developed it or pay for it. The same with other planes hapenned the same.

THe B24 If I am correct took 2 years of work. Free work. Lot of planes were added by a pilot with good skills in 3D and the will to do it. Four engined bombers, are a huge amount of work, I remark, free work. Of course I d love to se Fortres flying in il2 skies, but I guess that its nearly imposible at this time.

[Sita]

Originally Posted by ECV56_Guevara

THe B24 If I am correct took 2 years of work

wrong... it tooks over 4 year ...

[ECV56_Guevara]

Originally Posted by Sita

yeah ...it's because DT Apply some forces for that
But guy from 3rd party canceled that project ...

It was in process by DT?
Sita, have you info about the Lancaster adn the western Europe map?

Originally Posted by Sita

wrong... it tooks over 4 year ...

even worse than I thought, makes my point stronger.

[Sita]

Originally Posted by ECV56_Guevara

It was in process by DT?

not exactly ... i was trying to help to guy who working on B17 ... and after all ... not finished model of pilot Pit of B17 stays in hand of DT ... but it was not enough quality ... highly not finished status ... so that model with permission of the author was sended to HSFX team ...

its too BIG project


btw ... on B24 was spend over 4 years of real life of two men

[WhiskeyWhiskey]

This is kind of my point.

Other people have done a lot of the work on different parts of this game.

The B-24, or any other flight models, are just examples.

Daidalos is the only real official source for everything to come under one download so everyone that has the game can be on the same version, as much as possible.

Daidalos, in my humble opinion (even if it may be an over simplification), should embark on a campaign to utilize all this work available for download as a source for the things they don't have the time to perfect them selves.

I can't imagine, for instance, the people that spent so long to develop the B-24, or B-17 in HSFX wouldn't want to donate, or share their version with Daidalos.

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyWhiskey

I can't imagine, for instance, the people that spent so long to develop the B-24, or B-17 in HSFX wouldn't want to donate, or share their version with Daidalos.

Apparently, there are some, who wouldn't. There are some more, who would take other's work and put their name on it, without even informing original authors, releasing it as their own "mod".

But it isn't the main (bigger) problem. The main problem is that many, if not most, of the stuff, released as mods are unfinished, or not compliant to technical and/or quality standards, under which DT works. Many modders wouldn't have time/desire/skills to follow those standards, while DT has no resources to fix all the stuff themselves. That is why most of the mod stuff does not get into the official release.

Fresh exhample - the B-17 cockpis, Sita mentioned above. They weren't finished by their author to DT snadrds, DT couldn't help the author, neverthelss, the project, being unfinished, was released as mod.

Also, DT wouldn't release in official add-ons models and textures, taken from other game/software projects and converted by modders into the IL-2, like many mod ground vehicles, some aircraft, etc.

[WhiskeyWhiskey]

I guess I would wonder why it would matter to be so picky with standards when the finished product works mostly, with a game that is dying out?

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by ECV56_Guevara

It was in process by DT?
Sita, have you info about the Lancaster adn the western Europe map?

even worse than I thought, makes my point stronger.

Indeed! Stuff like the B-24 are a true labour of love. The guys spent many hours just researching. Then they went and found one of the few that still fly and took tons of photos. Then they actually went to work on the aircraft. It's an intense process!