What are your favorite troops?

[DGDobrev]

Originally Posted by MisterBarca

I killed Baal and still cannot recruit Archdemons. Where do I find them?

Also, isn't the game pretty much over once you get Archdemons?

I found them only in Baal's castle, after beating him. There were only 13 and that was all. I did a pretty thorough search of Demonis, the castles (I married Xeona, still nothing) and the buildings, as well as the labyrinth and the orcs' lands. That was it.

Maybe we're just unlucky. However, Archdemons aren't that wickedly powerful. You should keep them in reserve and use them only vs. dragons. Haas has high level hypnosis and he can possess pretty much any units that isn't mind immune.

[MisterBarca]

Originally Posted by DGDobrev

I found them only in Baal's castle, after beating him. There were only 13 and that was all. I did a pretty thorough search of Demonis, the castles (I married Xeona, still nothing) and the buildings, as well as the labyrinth and the orcs' lands. That was it.

Maybe we're just unlucky. However, Archdemons aren't that wickedly powerful. You should keep them in reserve and use them only vs. dragons. Haas has high level hypnosis and he can possess pretty much any units that isn't mind immune.

Hmmm, people keep saying that you can recruit them at Baal's castle, but I have not been able to find them. It's funny how you can only recruit 13 of them, however. It must be related to the fact that they have 666 hit points!

Thanks for the information on the Haas. I will definitely keep in mind.

[Ryastar]

Wow, this thread has suddenly become VERY popular. I just gotta put my two cents in.

First, black dragons are ALWAYS to be found in the land of the dead, not too far from Karador's castle, amongst all the ridges an so on. Red dragons are also available in the same area, though not the same building, and green dragons are available in a shop only accessible from the water in the land of a thousand rivers.

As for arch-demons, I don't believe there is any garunteed location for hiring them. You'll have to check everywhere in demonis, and if you have no luck there, there is a small chance that you might find them in Haas' labyrinth. I know that i have seen demon-aligned shops there, and you might get lucky.

Final thing, Haas has a lot of spells he is fond of using, not just hypnosis (in fact, in three completed games, I have never seen him cast it). In my experience, he mostly casts armageddon, sheep and pygmy, the latter two usually on whatever stack you need the most.

[Goat]

One unit I really like that hasn't been mentioned are cyclops. They have high leadership and slow, but with an artifact that gives my slowest unit +1 to speed they are great. I walk them out into the middle of combat and because of their high damage resistance I very, very rarely lose one.

They are hard to find so I have to get more with sacrifice, but that is the only problem with them.

[Ryastar]

Their initiative is also TERRIBLE, meaning they pretty much always go last. That's why I don't use them, seeing as my strategy is that a dead enemy can't do any damage, so if you kill them fast you don't need to worry very much amount the damage they deal you.

[Elwin]

Originally Posted by Ryastar

and green dragons are available in a shop only accessible from the water in the land of a thousand rivers.

Where exactly ? I sailed around the coast and islands there couln't find it. Found pirate hut, lighthouse and elven underground with many emerald dr but enemies, no any dwelling. Altough i have them (because i sneaked to demonis earlier and had them available after doing quest with stealing dragon egg from ultrax) and can use sacrifice to get more, would be nice to buy some if they are available nearby instead of playing with sacrifice ( already have to do that much with royal snakes due to lack of any places to buy more, and i had no inquisitors untill i beat Emenem, while there was only like 20 of them so not much, also got sacrifice just here in grey wastelands)


And about the topic : I didnt finsh game yet so havent tested all but so far my favourite setup is :
royal snakes - thats obvious
emerald dragons - mana, tank
giant - even better tank than emerald ;p and with emerald positive morale and alle barrel doing nice damage too
cannoneers - alle barrel + telescopic sight
shamans - love distract with totems and dancing axe heal

i am also considering to change cannoneers and gianst to elves + hunters, which are better cannoneers or elves/hunters?

[Ryastar]

To get to the green dragon shop, enter 1000 rivers via magic valley in your boat, go to the second place where you can land on the mainland. There should be a beach with a path that turns generally right. Follow it, the shop is at the end of the path. I hope that's clear enough.

As for elves/hunters and cannoneers, hunters are far better than them whereas elves are about the same or slightly worse. The big difference is the no range penalty and the ability to use dragon arrows. Having no giants in your army will also make your green dragons stronger since their morale will go back to normal instead of being at -2 (so they will gain back the 20% attack and defense that they lost as well as getting a critical twice as often).

[Elwin]

Was quite clear , thanks got it and there are 37 of them there

[Elwin]

Now after 2nd game i have a better overview on units and so my favourites :

As for dragon emerald definetly
As for units for mid-late game :
Emerald again
Skell archer
Demon
Royal snake
Hunter
Sprite
Like fairy
Shaman
Inquisitor
For early game i like mostly
Royal snake
Inqi (if avalaible)
griphon
archmage
cannoner
ancient/polar bear

[Vilk]

Originally Posted by Ryastar

As for elves/hunters and cannoneers, hunters are far better than them whereas elves are about the same or slightly worse. The big difference is the no range penalty and the ability to use dragon arrows. Having no giants in your army will also make your green dragons stronger since their morale will go back to normal instead of being at -2 (so they will gain back the 20% attack and defense that they lost as well as getting a critical twice as often).

I don't think it's that sample:

• The first point is that tactical+ogre boot can make giant quite huge, much better fighter than Green dragon.
• The second point is I know everybody prefer get more runes than the shield dwarf reward for the map. But well what's 10 runes of each, perhaps 2 more skills or even 3 but not much more. On other hand elf don't have any Leadership bonus that dwarf can have ie -30% Leadership that means in fact 42% more Leadership than elves, that is huge. Do you really think that cannot worth the morale bonus of a full elf army and the Green Dragon use?
• The third point is that Dragon Arrow is an option, there's many more spells to use during first turn so when you choose use another spell, the comparison change a lot:
  • For a comparison Hunter vs Cannoner, the special attack of Cannoner and Tactical placing it closer to enemy give them a much better first attack. And the 42% Leadership bonus make the difference huge.
  • And when compared to Elf they have a first attack relatively even and the 42% Leadership bonus make the difference huge.
• The fourth point is that full elf army is a point giving more morale bonus but then bye bye to more choices like Green Dragon. That's an interesting option but not the single good option, too restricted.