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Old 02-09-2009, 06:45 PM
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According to a poll last year in this forum around 40% would like to have clickable cockpits. That's certainly not a tiny fraction of the SOW user base, at least the active hardcore part of it. Clickpits just in some 3rd party planes would be fully ok for me, with Il-2 level complexity they are really a waste of time. Oleg has said that it will be already possible to animate each switch in the VCs, so the amount of work for aircraft modelers is already the same as in sims with clickable cockpits. I assume that Oleg and his team weren't lazy in the last 5 years and already have refined the core features and that we can expect some serious improvements there.

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And it's quite possible that Oleg, who has clearly stated that he's not a fan, and clickpits are not going to happen, is getting bored of you whining.
Oleg could as well change his mind one day, if he sees that there is continuous support for this feature over many years and that it could help to increase his customer base. If people just ask for something once followed by silence for years Oleg will naturally think that it is not really important. We don't have to lobby Oleg for an improved AI or offline campaigns, just the less obvious things. If BOB is really close to beta now he might consider which features to add for future incarnations.

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So be immersed in another sim?
With no serious competitor around and especially now after the demise of ACES and the MSFS/CFS series Oleg and SOW are currently the only hope to something as the ultimate combat flight sim one day.
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:48 PM
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According to a poll last year in this forum around 40% would like to have clickable cockpits.

I think that we who strongly advocate for more complex startup's and complex systems management, should reframe from using the term or word "clickable"

Just the word "clickable" can turn off a whole lot of people. What we want is press a key or button, and watch as the function takes place. Need to prime the engine, press the button/key assigned to that function 3 or 4 time's or what ever it take's. Need to switch fuel tank's??? press the key/button to achieve that task. You will find that looking at a switch with your eyes, and then using your hand to press a key/button, and then see/hear it move, is totally natural! and will seem as though you touched that switch and felt it move.

"clickable" using the "mouse" will not work in a combat sim, but let's say a pad, or hotas such as the one's CH puts out, where you could program multiple functions would work ideally...I think it very important that we drop that word "clickable" in this discussion...and remove it from the title!!!!
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:36 PM
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Just the word "clickable" can turn off a whole lot of people. What we want is press a key or button, and watch as the function takes place. Need to prime the engine, press the button/key assigned to that function 3 or 4 time's or what ever it take's. Need to switch fuel tank's??? press the key/button to achieve that task. You will find that looking at a switch with your eyes, and then using your hand to press a key/button, and then see/hear it move, is totally natural! and will seem as though you touched that switch and felt it move.

"clickable" using the "mouse" will not work in a combat sim, but let's say a pad, or hotas such as the one's CH puts out, where you could program multiple functions would work ideally...I think it very important that we drop that word "clickable" in this discussion...and remove it from the title!!!![/QUOTE]

i agree. itd be more stuff to map, but if thats your flavor ice cream, i think there might be decent immersion there
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:10 AM
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SlipBall,

Good post. Nail and head come to mind.

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