SOW: two versions.

[JoeA]

Originally Posted by Rama

I don't know if it's easy or hard... and that's not the point...
The point is that it is anoying and boring enough (and not only "switching", but also retrieving and managing the gazillion mod files) for a lot of former active online pilots so they stopped playing online.

That's a factual observation after reading many squad forums.

Indeed that's why I gave up online flying, too much chaos it seems.

Still having occasional fun with my unmodded 4.09b offline...though pretty infrequently it seems.

[Flyby]

this is all too crazy. multiple installs, switchers, ect. I guess I'd rather keep it simple, and not mod. When I return to flying status I hope there will be rooms that just fly un-modded '46. I've seen that some of the mods look and sound terrific, but I'll pass.
Flyby out

[SlipBall]

+1...divided we fall

[Feathered_IV]

-1

Those who are too demotivated to take a detailed interest in the game they supposedly to love should retreat back to the couch. They can hardly blame other fans of the series for being proactive and moving forward; putting in the time to ensure that they have a setup that is flexible and compatible with every mode of play. It is not difficult to do. You just have to apply yourself a little. And to be honest, I like it much better this way. I had almost completely outgrown the Il-2 series before the opportunity for third party development came along. The added scope that the mods have given the game have won me back. They just require that you take an interest beyond the Next and Refly button.

[Flyby]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

-1

Those who are too demotivated to take a detailed interest in the game they supposedly to love should retreat back to the couch. They can hardly blame other fans of the series for being proactive and moving forward; putting in the time to ensure that they have a setup that is flexible and compatible with every mode of play. It is not difficult to do. You just have to apply yourself a little. And to be honest, I like it much better this way. I had almost completely outgrown the Il-2 series before the opportunity for third party development came along. The added scope that the mods have given the game have won me back. They just require that you take an interest beyond the Next and Refly button.

I don't count myself as one who blames anyone for anything with regards to IL2 mods. I've stated pretty much that I like some of the mods I've seen: 6d0f, sound mods etc on youtube. In fact I enjoyed watching them. I also agree with you that those who are too demotivated to take a detailed interest in the game should retreat to the couch. I am not confusing that position with one in which people don't want to fly with mods. I see two separate choices. To each hos own flavor, eh? I'm sure you agree, Feathered_IV.
IL2 is, in all it's presentations a great sim. There is nothing wrong with flying what suits you.
Who knows what lies ahead for IL2? As long as fans still fly it, that's what really matters, imo. I may change my mind about using mods by the time I return to flight status. I know I'd enjoy some of them, especially the 6dof mod as I own TIR-3 with Vector expansion. Perhaps my taste buds will change by then. But don't be judgemental of those who fly to the beat of a different feather.
Flyby out

[ElAurens]

With the exception of the French an Russian mod communities, the majority are using the AAA Unified installer. It's easy, it works, and it creates a de-facto standard. And as I said, if you want to fly standard 4.08, it is one mouse click away.

[csThor]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

-1

Those who are too demotivated to take a detailed interest in the game they supposedly to love should retreat back to the couch. They can hardly blame other fans of the series for being proactive and moving forward; putting in the time to ensure that they have a setup that is flexible and compatible with every mode of play. It is not difficult to do. You just have to apply yourself a little. And to be honest, I like it much better this way. I had almost completely outgrown the Il-2 series before the opportunity for third party development came along. The added scope that the mods have given the game have won me back. They just require that you take an interest beyond the Next and Refly button.

Again this "We modders are the real fans and you aren't" cr@p. Can't you stuff that nonsense where the stars don't shine and just let those who have no love for the macks play the game unaltered and without lashing out at them at least once a week?

Jeez, is it really that hard to accept that not everyone wants what AAA patches together?

[Flyby]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

With the exception of the French an Russian mod communities, the majority are using the AAA Unified installer. It's easy, it works, and it creates a de-facto standard. And as I said, if you want to fly standard 4.08, it is one mouse click away.

and both flavors are represented on HL, at least? If so then all is well for those who want it both ways. Can't ask for more than that.
Flyby out
PS: I agree with Thor. I think life is too short to be hating on someone who doesn't like what someone else likes. I don't think either camp means to sound elite-ist. Being that the subject matter is a sim (after all), who wants to be the only one upset over divergent views about how it's played? Must I invoke Rodney King?

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by 99th_Flyby

I think life is too short to be hating on someone who doesn't like what someone else likes. I don't think either camp means to sound elite-ist. Being that the subject matter is a sim (after all), who wants to be the only one upset over divergent views about how it's played? Must I invoke Rodney King?

Well said.

[96th_Nightshifter]

Agreed, people that like the mods will use them, people that don't, won't. Pretty simple.
The mods are NOT going to go away no matter what anyone says so it is pointless to continue bashing each other.

Let's all just enjoy this sim for as long as possible; the choice of how you enjoy it being completely your own.