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Old 11-05-2008, 12:43 PM
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Yes, it's the 30% extra damage from the Silver Rapier and the 20% less defense from the Sword of Light that must have done it - obviously the damage would be lower against non-Undead enemies. But that is about the perfect combination of factors! I wonder what the theoretical limit to damage would be...

I observed that the max actual damage my Sprites would do with a Critical was 10 per Sprite (this is including Anga's Ring of course). But that Critical must have been around 18 damage per Lake Fairy, which is phenomenal.
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Old 11-09-2008, 12:20 AM
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Hell fire is actually a pretty nice boost to the fairies, might wanna try that to boost some phat crits.
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Old 02-11-2009, 06:35 AM
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Hell fire is actually a pretty nice boost to the fairies, might wanna try that to boost some phat crits.
yup, got a 57600 crit with hellfire on, it was freakish though, a more normal one would be about 20-30k. Sometimes i use berserk on them but in most fights where it counts it's not ok to lose control like that ;p
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Old 03-16-2009, 11:22 AM
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I wonder what the theoretical limit to damage would be...
I think it will be over 100k with the perfect setup. working on a game like this atm but got a bit bored of it so will see if it takes another week before screenshot
Can tell you straight away that it won't be fairies or sprites breaking the record.
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Old 03-17-2009, 08:05 PM
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I think it will be over 100k with the perfect setup. working on a game like this atm but got a bit bored of it so will see if it takes another week before screenshot
Can tell you straight away that it won't be fairies or sprites breaking the record.
Fairies & sprite are very fast & have no retaliation, they are very useful.

But for pure damage I guess you want to try the melee lvl1 thorn with a high level warrior, the thorn crow and similar helpful items, and take along some Inquisitor, shamans, necromancer & other casters to help buffing them and debuffing their targets.

The book of Dead summon can help debuffing the target too.

I'm sure it's possible to go over a 200K crit with some patience.
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:40 AM
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Yes Leind I agree with all of it, the idea isn't a practical army (for which sprites/fairies work better) but a max crit like you guessed, does book of dead have any unique buff that you thought would help?
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:18 PM
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One thing that I haven't heard people talking about in the pursuit of ridiculously large critical strikes: the spell Helplessness. At max level, it reduces the targets defense by 60%, which can have a huge effect if cast on the target beforehand. That, combined with the silver rapier, can be pretty powerful.
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Old 03-22-2009, 10:35 PM
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Yes Leind I agree with all of it, the idea isn't a practical army (for which sprites/fairies work better) but a max crit like you guessed, does book of dead have any unique buff that you thought would help?
Book of dead don't have unique debuff, but can help you have the maximum amounf of buff & debuff on your unit and the target unit at a same time (you can summon the book and wait before using it).
Especially if you're a warrior and don't have access to higher magic.

Before finishing the game I will try this combo, but being a mage (lower leadership & attack stats) I will certainly not have as much damage as a warrior.

I hope I will find a suitable stack, you need to look with a stack with the maximum of low level stacks (8-10 for example) that can be put asleep and killed with your thorn stack to max up the frenzy attack bonus. I guess a stack with dryads would be the best, as you can let them summon thorn every three turn and kill them to max up the frenzy bonus. Too bad I completely cleared the elf lands.
I will have a look at my druids staff, I guess the keeper fight have dryads in them.
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Old 03-28-2009, 01:40 AM
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Just before finishing the game, I tried it and got a nice critical : 233K with thorns warriors.

To get that I maxed out the attack stat bonus with the Frenzy skill, killing all stacks with the thorns then letting the opposing dryads summons more thorns stack to kill, in order to have at least an attack bonus of 90 over the enemy defense.

For the damage stats I used the thorn crown, the whip and the poison dagger along with hell Breath. All of that boosted the thorn warrior damage from 1-3 to 6-12. A 400% boost.

And finally I used as a victim another thorn unit. They have a -100% fire vulnerability. So each point of fire damage is doubled. That mean each thorn have a base damage of 17. I tried increasing the vulnerability of the targeted unit with grease but it didn't worked. I guess the maximum vulnerability is 100%.

Finally the only necessary spell were doom (100% chance of critical) and Hell Breath.

With a stack of 2885 thorns it means that each thorn did about 81 damage. Not bad for a 8 leadership unit
A warrior with more leadership (I had 23080 as mage) should easily got more than 275K.




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Old 03-30-2009, 06:23 AM
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WOW, great result, haven't seem anything like that even between russian players! My congratulations!
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