4.13 development update discussion and feedback

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by The_WOZ

I fly the Ju-88 a lot and the main problem I find is the MG-81 range is too small compared to the turret MGs on allied planes.

That's the difference between 12.7/.50 caliber and 7.62 mm/.30 caliber guns.

Originally Posted by The_WOZ

(But AI gunners still open fire when the enemy is at 1500m like in other bombers)

I haven't encountered this, not even for rookie gunners. Typically, rookie gunners will make a short burst at about 500 m, then stop until you get to about 300 m.

Given the huge number of Ju-88 variants, a "fix" that would both make the Ju-88A more effective and which would work around the problem that the rear gunner can't man both guns would be to introduce a version that has a single window with a twin MG 81 mounted in it.

[gaunt1]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

Given the huge number of Ju-88 variants, a "fix" that would both make the Ju-88A more effective and which would work around the problem that the rear gunner can't man both guns would be to introduce a version that has a single window with a twin MG 81 mounted in it.

Agree, it would be great if both guns could fire. As far as I know, in reality, the bombardier/front gunner often left his position and manned the second gun.
Another "fix" would be adding the Ju-88A14, which was more survivable. It was primarily an anti shipping dive bomber variant (but widely used against ground targets on eastern front too), so it had a little more armor to withstand the AAA fire from ships. And it would be really easy to make, both the external model (just add MGFF in place of bombsight window, like the torp bomber A4), and cockpit (A4 torp cockpit, with dive bombsight from ordinary A4)

[The_WOZ]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

That's the difference between 12.7/.50 caliber and 7.62 mm/.30 caliber guns.
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Yeah, I agree a bullet with a relative higher gunpowder load will travel farther, but what I mean is that in game, bullets _dissappear_ after 600m (Just made a test in the QMB and you can fly at 590m from the bomber, directly into the bullet stream of the bottom MG-81z and all the tracers will dissappear right in front of your propeller and you'll not receive a single hit)

Looking at the gun parameters of the game, MG-81 bullets exist (if Im reading it right) for 1.1seconds after leaving the gun.
Russian ShKAS, another 7.62mm gun with higher muzzle velocity but slighty smaller cartridge, the bullets weight is almost the same that the MG-81s, yet it exists for 2.2seconds after leaving the gun.
For the Browning .50 bullet life varies with round type, but is 6.4 secs on average
For the MG-FF, heavier round and slower muzzle velocity, average bullet life is 2.8secs
For the Breda SAFAT 12.7mm, which is a Browning .50 with a smaller cartridge and thus slower muzzle velocity (only 30m/sec faster than the MG-81) the bullet life time is the same as the .50: 6.4 secs on average.


It sure seems something is off with the MG-81, seeing as bullet life time is not exactly directly related with the ballistic properties of the gun.

[TexasJG]

Daidalos Team, it has been two months since any type of official, or semi-official update. Could we get a little something, at least a grunt, be patient, go away, or something please.
Just being a little sarcastic.

The bomber functions in this patch are very greatly anticipated, myself anyway.
Thank you for the awesome work this team has done!!
It is greatly appreciated!!

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

What the man above said

[nic727]

They are working hard (or not)...

Can't wait to see what you are doing!

[wWwebBrowser]

All is quiet on the western front.

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

maybe a good sign