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Old 01-17-2014, 11:13 AM
Masi67 Masi67 is offline
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Don't mix boom and zoom, turn fight etc. with Lag Roll maneuver. Lag roll can be used to cut corners if you have E advantage and keep you E adnvantage. If you overshoot executing lag roll and loose to much E then you are misunderstanding it.

Use it when you have more E and enemy is turning and you want to keep pressure, or when attacking unaware enemy who is changing direction.

And ofcourse using Hartaman's tactics is always the safest pet Topic is when to use Lag roll manuver LOL
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Old 01-19-2014, 10:36 AM
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Excuse me for being ridiculous, but ever since I read the title of this thread ...
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Old 01-19-2014, 04:53 PM
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Lag roll sets you up for side attacks.
Telling why not to turn fight is not mixing turn fighting in.
Yes, you can lag roll with high closing speed. Where is a rule that a lag roll does not end in a gun pass and switch to other tactic.

Here is a strategy: don't be predictable.
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Old 01-19-2014, 06:42 PM
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Lag roll sets you up for side attacks.
Telling why not to turn fight is not mixing turn fighting in.
Yes, you can lag roll with high closing speed. Where is a rule that a lag roll does not end in a gun pass and switch to other tactic.

Here is a strategy: don't be predictable.
Again this is discussion about Lag Roll, not about HOW TO BE UNPREDICTABLE LOL
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Old 01-19-2014, 06:51 PM
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Lag roll sets you up for side attacks.
Sorry Gunz, you'll have to explain that one! Assuming I'm incomming on his six.....
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Old 01-19-2014, 07:02 PM
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If you coming on his six with more E and he turns you can setup attack with lag roll. Key thing is that you need to do it on right time not too late.MAXGUNZ is right that if you see that you will overshoot then you need to do something else. No single attack will make the difference if target is aware of you. Lag Roll is usable on some situations but not for all.

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Old 01-20-2014, 12:47 AM
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I still have my copy of Shaw's book. IIRC the lag roll attack diagram only has so many steps.

But you can use the tactic to stay behind a plane that is moving enough slower that you can zoom significantly higher, sorry for the lame grammar there.

Yes about THE difference though sometimes you get lucky. You might go from one ACM to another and back to the first in a single engagement.

How many of you use BCM's and ACM's just to get in position to start an attack as opposed to going straight in and then figuring your angles and energy?

If anyone can find the old Air Warrior player Bullethead, he had the whole energy fighting bag wrapped up very well. His tactics pages used to be up on Delphi and wow, distilled know-how. Once you learn his way, you won't ever want to turn fight again! The community lost a lot when those pages went down.
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