4.13 development update discussion and feedback

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by stugumby

new jake looks awesome but has anyone noticed when seaplanes land they cut off their engine and glide in?? This was a recurring in and out glitch since the early pacific fighters days, seems it sback, not a show stopper but maybe something to look into?

This is not a glitch. The AI lands with engine on, if landing waypoint is on a water airfield. It considers a landing waypoint, set away from any base, as crash landing waypoint and acts respectively (no matter, if it is water landing with a seaplane - it still a crash landing, if it is not on an airfield).

[Fighterace]

Looking forward to the next 4.13 update

[stugumby]

So what your saying in FMB terms is if there is a water based airfield symbol on the map it will land with engine on and if just set to land on water anywhere it glides in, fascinating, i stand corrected. Tried it with a fixed seaplane spot and it works fine, but if emplacing test runway 4 the plane glides in.

[Pershing]

video about co-pilots

Is this about dogfight mode..?

[jameson]

Maybe jumping the gun here, but this dual control code would seem to open up the possibility of permitting dual control flight training. Tiger Moth, Harvard p6 could be used to create scripted missions, ai/player, to get newcomers to the game up to some kind of base level, in flying and basic acm. This would rectify the games abandoment of training missions that occurred very early in the games history. Someone has to do the missions of course and agreement about what they should be....but would add to the game greatly.

[SPAD-1949]

Originally Posted by stugumby

So what your saying in FMB terms is if there is a water based airfield symbol on the map it will land with engine on and if just set to land on water anywhere it glides in, fascinating, i stand corrected. Tried it with a fixed seaplane spot and it works fine, but if emplacing test runway 4 the plane glides in.

Also tried this.
With several AC and also with a Catilina.
Tried to force it to land on a landbased airstrip, since I thougt it had retractable wheels.
But it allways come down on the nearest larger open water, on rivers its not clear, sometimes it happens to meet water by accident mostly it just lands on flat land or crashes on not so flat land.
If it lands on flat land, all the men jump out and run, if it touches down on land but slips so far that it happens to come to a halt on water, they remain inside.

[stugumby]

To make a mission where rufe takes off from water near a ship filling in as seaplane tender,conducts its mission, how to get it to land engine running to near ship. Since there is no seaplane point I tried test runways 4_6 but no luck with landing engine on. Test runways were set to same color as player and linked in landing tab. Is there a tip or trick to obtain a seaplane airfid on any map with water??

[Tolwyn]

Can you please elaborate on the Co-pilot / Nosegunner / Bombadier relationship now?

1. In Coop mode, who can occupy which spots?
2. What are the restrictions?
3. Can pilot still switch to nosegunner and bomb and have copilot pilot aircraft?
4. Can copilot switch to nosegunner and bomb and have pilot pilot the aircraft?
5. If pilot moves to rear-gunner, can copilot move to pilot spot? Meaning, are they considered "hot seats" or...?

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by jameson

Maybe jumping the gun here, but this dual control code would seem to open up the possibility of permitting dual control flight training. Tiger Moth, Harvard p6 could be used to create scripted missions, ai/player, to get newcomers to the game up to some kind of base level, in flying and basic acm. This would rectify the games abandoment of training missions that occurred very early in the games history. Someone has to do the missions of course and agreement about what they should be....but would add to the game greatly.

The fly in the ointment here is that there are no Tiger Moths or Texans (Harvards) in the stock sim.

[Marabekm]

Originally Posted by Tolwyn

Can you please elaborate on the Co-pilot / Nosegunner / Bombadier relationship now?

1. In Coop mode, who can occupy which spots?
2. What are the restrictions?
3. Can pilot still switch to nosegunner and bomb and have copilot pilot aircraft?
4. Can copilot switch to nosegunner and bomb and have pilot pilot the aircraft?
5. If pilot moves to rear-gunner, can copilot move to pilot spot? Meaning, are they considered "hot seats" or...?

1. Im am pretty sure each is a different slot now. So on the planes which had all three positions then in coop you can have three different players in each position.

I would assume switching positions would be the same as it is now.

Of course I could be wrong here so please feel free to correct me if I am.