4.12 development update discussion and feedback

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by christopher0936

I'm getting worried about vaporware....

Can a patch for an already developed product be considered vaporware?

Originally Posted by christopher0936

Im a noob to the forum... DUH

You have to forgive these guys.. there was a jerk on another board here who actually created a new identity .. so he could argue with himself .. LOL So bear with these guys..

Originally Posted by christopher0936

im worried it will be cancelled thats what im saying

You shouldn't worry about that .. and frankly even if it were cancelled today and there was no more support forthcoming for IL2 .. what we have would be monumental and something that will probably never be achieved again in the genre.

Originally Posted by christopher0936

i thought vapourware was where something is half developed and just abandoned

See above.. this is a fully developed sim already .. these patches are ongoing development (icing) but the finished product is realized (the cake is baked).

Originally Posted by IceFire

Sims are a niche product... but IL-2 is far from dead. Go on HyperLobby any weekend and see the numbers of servers and COOPs running. Plus all of the folks who just play single player and don't always speak up a whole lot.

You may or may not know but IL-2s current development is done by Team Daidalos - a collection of volunteers with the knowledge and talents required to work on something as complex as this is. The only impediment is really time and interest...there isn't a yearly budget that will run out. Sometimes patches take a while but there is a ton of love being poured into this and there's enough content in the pipe to span into 4.13... surely.

Even in it's heyday there were still a lot of folks who had no idea about IL2. Hyperlobby is not a good indicator though.. at one time Hyperlobby would be packed in the thousands.. Now it is rare that it goes over the 500 mark.. but like IF said... this sim is far from being dead or even near death.. In fact it is probably the only 12 year old flight sim still getting new users almost daily..

[Fenice_1965]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Can a patch for an already developed product be considered vaporware?




You have to forgive these guys.. there was a jerk on another board here who actually created a new identity .. so he could argue with himself .. LOL So bear with these guys..



You shouldn't worry about that .. and frankly even if it were cancelled today and there was no more support forthcoming for IL2 .. what we have would be monumental and something that will probably never be achieved again in the genre.




See above.. this is a fully developed sim already .. these patches are ongoing development (icing) but the finished product is realized (the cake is baked).




Even in it's heyday there were still a lot of folks who had no idea about IL2. Hyperlobby is not a good indicator though.. at one time Hyperlobby would be packed in the thousands.. Now it is rare that it goes over the 500 mark.. but like IF said... this sim is far from being dead or even near death.. In fact it is probably the only 12 year old flight sim still getting new users almost daily..

Numbers are no more the ones we got used some years ago, but IL2 is still the combat flight simulation with more players online than any other.
CLOD has only one server with high numbers (ATAG) ad it absorbs almost the entire CLOD online community.
ROF doesn't come close to IL2 numbers online.
My opinion is that IL2 is not getting so many new players (I think that if someone approaches sims now will be more attracted by latest generation graphics...IL2 needs to be tasted in the deep...not so many newbies have the patience or the will to do that as a first approach), but that it is holding his community with amazing results.

[Asheshouse]

I'm getting the vapours just thinking about all the stuff which is promised for 4.12