4.12 development update discussion and feedback

IceFire · #1 02-21-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shelby

when AI hurricane is targeting for example lagg and aproaches to target from some distance of the target he starting to fly like he is losing control of the plane

AI routines aren't specific to individual aircraft like that. Maybe you should record a couple of track files to investigate?

shelby · #2 02-21-2013, 03:39 PM

here it is
and this is the smooth version of what i mean

shelby · #3 02-21-2013, 04:30 PM

there is another file tha shows clear what i mean

shelby · #4 02-21-2013, 10:00 PM

here it is what i am talking about and it is recorded with 4.11.1 patch

IceFire · #5 02-21-2013, 10:22 PM

Not sure what I'm looking for... I see the Oscar shooting at a Hurricane and some back and forth. Several Hurricanes make a sweeping pass and miss. The worst bit I saw was the AI flying Oscar (I didn't see you take the AI off) doing some excessive aileron work to try and maintain a firing solution.

Is that what you mean? Too much rolling? It's not loosing control... it's just rolling to avoid negative G and doing it a lot. A real pilot would probably be sick

jameson · #6 02-21-2013, 11:24 PM

I'm currently having an occassional QMB with a p40 (Ace) which flies with psychopathic tendencies. Strangely though he will black out and crash after making too many 8g turns in his efforts to get me. I believe FC99 is looking at it. Shame I don't get the kill though. It's becoming more fun to make him crash than it is to shoot him down.

Pursuivant · #7 02-22-2013, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jameson

I'm currently having an occassional QMB with a p40 (Ace) which flies with psychopathic tendencies. Strangely though he will black out and crash after making too many 8g turns in his efforts to get me. I believe FC99 is looking at it. Shame I don't get the kill though. It's becoming more fun to make him crash than it is to shoot him down.

Arguably, that's a feature rather than a bug. After all, even an ace pilot can mess up and crash into the ground. For example, a low level stall in a dogfight killed Thomas McGuire - the second highest scoring American ace of WW2.

Just assume that your P-40 pilot has a bad case of overconfidence and testosterone poisoning.

majorfailure · #8 02-22-2013, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jameson

I'm currently having an occassional QMB with a p40 (Ace) which flies with psychopathic tendencies. Strangely though he will black out and crash after making too many 8g turns in his efforts to get me. I believe FC99 is looking at it. Shame I don't get the kill though. It's becoming more fun to make him crash than it is to shoot him down.

I hope this does NOT get fixed. May just be my impression - but the 4.11 AI seems to do stupid things at least once in a while - and thats good!

And there seems to be some "suicidal" AI. Never back down - even if that means crashing into their prey. And why evade in a head-on? -Let the other guy do that.

shelby · #9 02-22-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IceFire

Is that what you mean? Too much rolling? It's not loosing control... it's just rolling to avoid negative G and doing it a lot. A real pilot would probably be sick

yes but the same thing happens with the other planes controlled by AI.
Anyway it must be fixed

IceFire · #10 02-22-2013, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shelby

yes but the same thing happens with the other planes controlled by AI.
Anyway it must be fixed

Ahh... so what you're talking about IS the rolling of the AI to stay on target. It has very little to do with the types of planes involved. Yeah it would be nice to see the AI behave a little more realistically in this area. It is a bit odd isn't it?