Il2 sturmovik original fight model was different?

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Janosch

Now that is a good point. Servers with padlock + externals combined (I think it's that particular combination that sucks), or enemy views, full icons, open cockpit etc allowed, are toy servers. I cannot understand why people pay for a simulator to play it as an arcade game. Then again, maybe they didn't pay.
And if some server truly allows I-185 with no limitations, then it's not worth playing on.

Ahh but that's the beauty of it. Not everyone has to play the same way. Some want the full authentic experience... some want a lighter experience. Both are enthusiasts of WWII air combat but their wants and desires are quite different. I don't think it's too hard to understand why people might want one, the other, or both.

[JtD]

The tracks won't work any more, but attached two screenshots of v1.2.

The game has improved a lot since the beginning and yet there are still a lot of factors that aren't even modeled yet (It would be so nice to get, at least, roll axis inertia which was the reason the 109 had the wing guns removed - and why gunpods hurt it so much *but not in game*). And I still would like to see more realistic stalls across the board (for instance, P-39s with ammo were not difficult to recover from spins within the first three turns, to say nothing of how easy to prevent from spinning in the first place), but stalls are now easily the best they've ever been. The game is in no way a substitute for real flying but it's a heck of a lot cheaper and, regardless of the style of flight termination, one is free to go out to dinner immediately afterword with no thought of deductibles or co-pays.

[K_Freddie]

Well, I've flown a few aircraft since 2001, but nothing compares to a DCS P51.
This is a new ball game altogether..

I was reluctant to 'convert'. but after sampling.... hasta lavista.. baby!!
(and I'm a FW190 fanboy)

Maybe with TD radical changes... I'm open to options ?

[Jumoschwanz]

It certainly has been interesting flying the sim up through all it's patches from the beginning. I still have the original IL2 installed patched up to 1.2, I also have an early version of FB installed (1.21) and a few later versions of IL246. It is fun to periodically fly them all in one sitting and see how they differ. Last I looked someone still had a server up on HL for the original IL2.

If the early IL2 is harder to fly it is just because it is not too good compared with the latest one. The aircraft often fly like they are cars on a roller-coaster track and the weapons, damage and other things are not as sophisticated. It was the best there was though and lots of fun at the time.

A friend I fly with is an old vet who still has a private license, and he says some of the aircraft in IL246 fly like a real aircraft and likes the P-47.

Back to the question, I do not think there is any reason to doubt that the latest patch of IL2 is a much better simulation of a real aircraft than it was ten or twelve years ago.....

[Derda508]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Ahh but that's the beauty of it. Not everyone has to play the same way. Some want the full authentic experience... some want a lighter experience. Both are enthusiasts of WWII air combat but their wants and desires are quite different. I don't think it's too hard to understand why people might want one, the other, or both.

Thank you for this one!
It can get really tiring to read the posts of people who are convinced that their personal way of doing things is the one and only correct way.
There are a multitude of ways to play Il2 and the right one is just the one you have most fun with. And this might just be the reason why Il2 is still alive and as fascinating as ever.