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Old 09-16-2008, 09:41 PM
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I must say that I'm a bit split about possible startup procedures, and I tend to agree more and more with a statement by Oleg some time ago that it may be a bit interesting the first time, then it just gets annoying. Pressing a button sequence will after the first few times be something you do automatically - or script into a button on your keyboard if you have that functionality... Like I've done with the landing gear "click-click-click..." 16 times procedure for the I-16

"Automatically" tapping a sequence actually lowers the immersion in a way for me at least, as I have to focus more on the keyboard which brings me back to the fact that I'm tapping a modern device for computer input and not cranking a greasy fuel switch. The joystick is easier to "forget" or "accept" for me... That's just my opinion, and I respect that others feel different about it. I'm just a bit worried that to many servers will enable the "full startup sequence" if it's available...
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:52 PM
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I agree I never used the start up procedure in BOB WOV until I mapped it to my Hotas system. Then it became very immersive, atleast for me. I never use the keyboard unless I absolutely have too.
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:49 AM
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Hello Oleg,

Question: I noticed one of the train cars has a "straw texture" on the floor of it, does that mean you will be including livestock cargo in the train cars? (horses, cattle,...)
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:23 AM
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...and if you shoot the cars they escape!
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:27 AM
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Hello Oleg,

Question: I noticed one of the train cars has a "straw texture" on the floor of it, does that mean you will be including livestock cargo in the train cars? (horses, cattle,...)
First of all it means that it is a cattle carrier. You just shouldn't read too much into it.
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Old 09-17-2008, 05:07 AM
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First of all it means that it is a cattle carrier. You just shouldn't read too much into it.
Hey, do you mean you don't think any livestock will be included? Really I'm just asking if there will be cows in the cattle car, any thoughts?
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:18 AM
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Hey, do you mean you don't think any livestock will be included? Really I'm just asking if there will be cows in the cattle car, any thoughts?
Janes WWII Fighters had 3D deer running all over the place when you got down low, which was cool. And the pidgens in Rowans Flying Corps Gold that were spooked from the trees as you took off were fairly special.

Things like that add to the imersion. Like the waving grass that we were told about in SOW. It makes you forget that your on the computer!
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:20 AM
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You'd be amazed, knowing what kind of things can sit on trains...

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Old 09-17-2008, 11:17 AM
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And I thought it was cool landing the Harriers on buildings in Janes Marine Fighters!!!!! (The sim that made me buy a throttle quadrant (Sill in limited use!))

I can see myself buying a Helio sim in the near future!

When is it going to be released?
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:16 PM
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"Automatically" tapping a sequence actually lowers the immersion in a way for me at least, as I have to focus more on the keyboard which brings me back to the fact that I'm tapping a modern device for computer input and not cranking a greasy fuel switch. The joystick is easier to "forget" or "accept" for me... That's just my opinion, and I respect that others feel different about it. I'm just a bit worried that to many servers will enable the "full startup sequence" if it's available...
For me too, that's why the clickable virtual cockpit was invented. A very immerse and natural way to operate all the switches you maybe use just once or twice during a mission. I prefer to only map really important functions to my stick that I have to access quickly during critical situations.

But having to use the keyboard for all actions is still better than having no complex or more complex start up procedures and similar things at all. I hope some companies that now only work for MSFS will start making 3rd party, "as real as it gets" add ons for SOW series as well.
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