4.12 open testing

[bitterman]

huh, sounds you are really bitter. Wish it will be better in 2013, and btw Happy New Year !

thnx man, but, please, don't let yourself to be misleaded by nicknames. this one is from Quake II. this topic is not my own initiative. of course, some thoughts are personally mine and some of them are expressed in the manner they should not be, and i'm sorry if they made someone disappointed. but the main purpose of this topic was to get to know if it is possible to make testing of current and further patches more opened? this question is comming from the groups of virpils listed in the 1st post. they just want to get exact official answer. If it is "yes" they will go with "me gusta" face. if it is "no", they will go with "okay" face. that's all.

Il-2 is still on sale.

oh. that's the argument. i just forgot about it. so much time has passed since 4.08.

as personally i understand, the main point of current testing process is the absence of a propper bug report which can gather all bugs with full description in one place, constrain their uniqueness and provide some rating feature which will allow to tell "oh, there's a bug in the bug list. i have the same. let me confirm it and add some comment to expand the plot of the problem" and will show the most common bugs and their debugging state. there are free bugtracking systems online. why just not to use one of them instead of having messed-up distributed testing forums? or i haven't took into consideration something again?

[IceFire]

Bug trackers could work but someone would have to maintain it and filter through all of the responses including likely thousands of non-technical users who are reporting bugs that aren't.

I worked in tech support for 5 years and although we encouraged our user base to report issues and come to us with problems for all kinds of support, the number of actual bugs we found in the product we were using as a result of user response was extremely low (like 2%).

So there is a break even point between having useful testing feedback and just having a wad of unusable data. The forums at least has a weeding out process that occurs naturally through discourse.