Black dragons and magic immunity

[Handel]

"Magic immunity" works as not allowing to target them with a spell. But if you use indirect attack you can still hurt them as they actually have only 80% magic immunity. As for the geyser I think it does physical damage from the falling, not magical damage from the spell itself.

[Pug of Stardock]

Originally Posted by Handel

"Magic immunity" works as not allowing to target them with a spell. But if you use indirect attack you can still hurt them as they actually have only 80% magic immunity. As for the geyser I think it does physical damage from the falling, not magical damage from the spell itself.

If this is true, then geyser should not work against black dragons. Here is the exact description from the game of 'magic immunity' for black dragons.

"80% resistance to magic damage. No spells affect the creature."

Geyser is a spell and therefore should not work against black dragons regardless of the type of damage it does. In multiple play-throughs of Armored Princess and Crossworlds, I NEVER had geyser work against my black dragons. Black dragons should be affected by units that use magical damage such as the goblin shaman, but not by a spell cast by the boss enemy.

My guess is they changed the mechanics of certain spells affecting black dragons, but they did not change the in-game description. (It seems in this game that the descriptions are full of obfuscations and misdirections.) I remember many players on the forums for AP saying they thought black dragons were over-powered because of this immunity.

I can accept that black dragons (and ice dragons) are now susceptible to certain spells, I was just surprised when it happened in my game because the description says NO SPELLS AFFECT THE CREATURE (my emphasis).

[tiberiu]

Black dragons were never immune to magic. They were always bugged. You could always cast Plague on them which completly destroys their attack and defense, making them easy targets. I was the old school player to discover this.

[Razorflame]

Originally Posted by tiberiu

Black dragons were never immune to magic. They were always bugged. You could always cast Plague on them which completly destroys their attack and defense, making them easy targets. I was the old school player to discover this.

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IIRC astral spell damage did hurt black dragons?
that was the only spell type that could black dragons

in either case they messed up alot of WOTN should have been a great game but instead it's fail

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Originally Posted by Razorflame

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IIRC astral spell damage did hurt black dragons?
that was the only spell type that could black dragons

in either case they messed up alot of WOTN should have been a great game but instead it's fail

In Crossworlds, Astral spells could hurt Black Dragons (Armageddon) IF you target the Black Dragon's Ally because you still couldn't target the Black Dragons.

So, a solo black dragon stack could fight the Demoness Heroine in Verona that loved to cast Armageddon when she was losing (the one with 20K peasants) and never get hit once with it.

But, Black Dragon + Red Dragons vs her, and suddenly your black dragons are going to get hit with Armaggedon because she can target the red dragons.

[Razorflame]

so i was correct about the astrall damge

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Razorflame

so i was correct about the astrall damge

Well you wouldn't be wrong from that statement by itself, but you didn't say anything out of the ordinary from that angle.

Units to not usually have beyond the normal defense (from medals and items) against astral damage. You can kill black dragons with magic damage too... just much harder since they are highly resistant. You can't target them except for a few handful of spells as we stated.

But the issue here is targetability, not susceptibility to damage.

If you mean targetability, you are technically incorrect as you can't target Armageddon on the Black Dragons. It just happens to hit "everything" regardless if the other units are 'targetable' or not.

It is more of a nuance if anything and I thought that was the case with Geyser in Crossworlds, but I believe it is no longer the case now (since physicals can hit magic resistant now). Sniffles.

It might even be a bug, but they probably aren't going to 'fix' it. We dont even know if Plague targetability was intended (since that's a pretty blatant error).

[Fatt_Shade]

@Pug

If this is true, then geyser should not work against black dragons. Here is the exact description from the game of 'magic immunity' for black dragons.

Thing is, only couple of spells in game deal pure magic dmg, comparing to many that make physical/astral/fire ... Healing/holy rain to undead , lightning , angel avenger , magic missile , rune chain , and that`s all of magic dmg spell. Now for fire, poison, astral , physical, and new glacial there is much more spells then just for magic dmg type.
My thought for making BD susceptible to spells was to make them targetable for other spells not just plague as in earlier games (pain mirror , defenseless, ice snake freeze effect , geyser stun effect , lightning shock effect ...)
As for wrong description ... why are you surprised ??? Half of game is translated wrong, why would BD spell immunity be any different.

@tiberiu

I was the old school player to discover this.

STFU. If you`re first to figure out plague works on BD that makes you Nike_it administrator of this forum http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...ghlight=plague (first post in KB forum about plague and BD October 200.