il2 1946 4.08m vs radeon hd3850

[sanyigz]

there are no specified shaders since the unified shaders came out, and since the gpu-s using multi functional units. the 3850 have 320 stream processing units, as the 3870, bcuz it's the same gpu(rv670) exept the clocks.

I don't play just il2, and when the real dx10 and 10.1 games coming, i won't downgrade to a dx9.5 gpu like a g92.

When im at home, i'll try to turn off 3dgunners, and setup radeon 9800 settings.

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by sanyigz

there are no specified shaders since the unified shaders came out, and since the gpu-s using multi functional units. the 3850 have 320 stream processing units, as the 3870, bcuz it's the same gpu(rv670) exept the clocks.

I don't play just il2, and when the real dx10 and 10.1 games coming, i won't downgrade to a dx9.5 gpu like a g92.

When im at home, i'll try to turn off 3dgunners, and setup radeon 9800 settings.

A G92 is based upon the G80 GPU with a die shrink and some enhancements like PCIE 2.0 and DX 10.1. It's certainly not a downgrade. They have a lot of bang for the buck.

In terms of a new GPU the most bang for your buck right now is the 260

I opted to buy another 8800GT and go SLI. I had some problems with SLI but I've been able to work them out. 8800GTs in SLI are in some cases faster than a 280 GTX. The key is SLI isn't as clean of a solution though it works. Running COD4 and a few other titles like a champ. The next move for me will be the move to a high end Quad Core but so far I'm not seeing games scale much past a 2 core CPU. I know FSX is about the only game where there is a noticable difference.

In terms of DX10 I aint buying into right now. This generation of cards isn't enough run it well and the visuals aren't that much better than DX9. So far I haven't seen the promised efficiency nor the mind blowing graphics DX10. Plus you can keep Vista... Only now is it starting to mature.

[sanyigz]

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

A G92 is based upon the G80 GPU with a die shrink and some enhancements like PCIE 2.0 and DX 10.1. It's certainly not a downgrade. They have a lot of bang for the buck.

There is no dx10.1 nvidia card, g80 also have pcie2.0 support.

But after a hd3850 any nvidia card would be downgrade, bcuz it capable for dx10.1, and nvidia cards hardly capable for REAL dx10 games (cuz there was some games with advertised dx10... but dx10 not about just shader 4, and they used just that)

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

In terms of DX10 I aint buying into right now. This generation of cards isn't enough run it well and the visuals aren't that much better than DX9. So far I haven't seen the promised efficiency nor the mind blowing graphics DX10. Plus you can keep Vista... Only now is it starting to mature.

As i said there are no real dx10 right now, but there will be. DX10 mainly isn't about better graphics, but about more efficent working. There was a little demo called "assasing creed" with it's "free" antialiasing with the use of dx10.1, of course only worked on ati cards.

current nvidia cards isn't enough for run dx10 games(poor performance in geometry shader fe.), that's why i wrote dx9.5 for nvidia cards, but ati cards won't have problem with that.

That's why i won't downgrade to nvidia, even if these old, nvidia optimized games like il2 running better on nvidia cards.

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by sanyigz

There is no dx10.1 nvidia card, g80 also have pcie2.0 support.

But after a hd3850 any nvidia card would be downgrade, bcuz it capable for dx10.1, and nvidia cards hardly capable for REAL dx10 games (cuz there was some games with advertised dx10... but dx10 not about just shader 4, and they used just that)

You're right the 8800GT is not a DX10.1 Card but I wouldn't consider going with an Nvidia it to be any sort of down grade. In terms of future support Microsoft stated "Microsoft reiterates that DirectX 10.1 fully supports DirectX 10 hardware and that DX10.1 extends the hardware functionality slightly" The update is only considered to be slight.

The G80 is not pcie 2.0 compliant and not that is does anything for performace.

If you're holding out for futures then good luck. Meanwhile I wouldn't worry too much about your video card futures you might want to get a better CPU.

[=FI=Mikester]

As I said in my previous post I have roughly the same card as you only with the AGP. The solution for me was re install the game in a diff folder and set it as you would normally. (graphics setting that is)

I then ran the game and it worked fine without any big drops in frames! I then copied the conf.ini file to my origional install and it was fine also! I previously had a NVidea card and think this made a change in the conf.ini that i didn't notice.

Hope this helps.
Mike