Proper Path before Demonis?

[Xargon]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

Man, That valkyrie medal. Ugh. It's incredibly powerful, but you have to check after each fight if you want to get it as fast as possible. Or I guess you could keep track or something, but that's also annoying.

I don't think you need to do everything pre-demonis. It seemed doable before then. I just hate the idea of missing out on stuff, y'know?

Ah, crap. I just realized I'm an idiot: I assumed the "rest time" that is reduced by the medals would be that of the valkyrie dialogue abilities - and consequently thought this medal was next to pointless, as those increase their recharge times with each use (and are not very useful apart from Hilda and possibly the last valkyrie). So back to getting it higher than lvl1...

So noone has found an item related to number of battles? Whenever I see a weak or very weak stack, I leave it for rage recharge or item battles...

[Nevar]

Wait, what does the Valkyrie medal ACTUALLY do? I also thought like Xargon did, given how it says "rest in between battles."

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Nevar

Wait, what does the Valkyrie medal ACTUALLY do? I also thought like Xargon did, given how it says "rest in between battles."

If you use a Valkyrie for their ability, they say "can't ask me again in 15 battles". Or something.

The lvl 2 medal lowers this by 1 to 14.

However, I can't see the current tick, or remember how many rounds it was the LAST time I asked. I swear the number of rounds they say changes each time to something higher...

[ckdamascus]

Anyway, yeah I'm getting super impatient now and I think I will run a lighter army and just strategically kill "invincible" armies for now.

Just ran to the Freedom isles and it seems that I "overpowered" armies in Greenwort that I wasn't supposed to.

I think the path was supposed to be explore any of the islands like Freedom Isle and Merlasser to get the army type you want and level up.

Crossworld's "problem" was the maps were pretty rigid and if you got unlucky you couldn't get a certain race/army at all until it was too late or got lucky with a beatable "Impossible" map guardian that was non-jukable.

[Zechnophobe]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Anyway, yeah I'm getting super impatient now and I think I will run a lighter army and just strategically kill "invincible" armies for now.

Just ran to the Freedom isles and it seems that I "overpowered" armies in Greenwort that I wasn't supposed to.

I think the path was supposed to be explore any of the islands like Freedom Isle and Merlasser to get the army type you want and level up.

Crossworld's "problem" was the maps were pretty rigid and if you got unlucky you couldn't get a certain race/army at all until it was too late or got lucky with a beatable "Impossible" map guardian that was non-jukable.

It's a weird thing. You lose all your viking units in the Dark Portal incident, but then get a pretty large selection. Just do the 'port' question from the guy as soon as you arrive in Greenwort, and that'll give you a boat to explore these other lands with. No problemo.

I may actually have to try playing through using Orcs. See how that goes.

[namad]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

It's a weird thing. You lose all your viking units in the Dark Portal incident, but then get a pretty large selection. Just do the 'port' question from the guy as soon as you arrive in Greenwort, and that'll give you a boat to explore these other lands with. No problemo.

I may actually have to try playing through using Orcs. See how that goes.

i'd love to play through using orcs, but how do you do it? where can you recruit them?

the first 4islands are 75-90% viking recruits and then the first 3areas of the main continent are 60-80% human recruits! where's my random crossworlds game style

[Zechnophobe]

Originally Posted by namad

i'd love to play through using orcs, but how do you do it? where can you recruit them?

the first 4islands are 75-90% viking recruits and then the first 3areas of the main continent are 60-80% human recruits! where's my random crossworlds game style

You can do the port quest in Arlania before clearing any of it, and I think without any fights. Do it, and travel to the Isles of Freedom (Kitano has the map) and you can get orc troops from then on. Not exactly the 'entire' game through, since first 4 islands are still mostly viking, but not too bad.

[Dragnipurake]

Originally Posted by namad

i'd love to play through using orcs, but how do you do it? where can you recruit them?

the first 4islands are 75-90% viking recruits and then the first 3areas of the main continent are 60-80% human recruits! where's my random crossworlds game style

You can purchase all Orcish units from the 'Mysterious Parcel', which can be obtained the moment you have access to Arlania. Check out the Mysterious Parcel thread for more details.

[Karlos]

Originally Posted by namad

i'd love to play through using orcs, but how do you do it? where can you recruit them?

the first 4islands are 75-90% viking recruits and then the first 3areas of the main continent are 60-80% human recruits! where's my random crossworlds game style

You can also purchase orcs on the Freedom Islands which come fairly early in the game (check with Kitano).

[Xargon]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

If you use a Valkyrie for their ability, they say "can't ask me again in 15 battles". Or something.

The lvl 2 medal lowers this by 1 to 14.

However, I can't see the current tick, or remember how many rounds it was the LAST time I asked. I swear the number of rounds they say changes each time to something higher...

Are you sure about this? I think it does indeed reduce rest time in battles. That warrior skill reduces only the Olaf rage skill rest time (and valkyrie rest times display one less than they actually have) and the valkyrie medal decreases those rest times, I believe... I won't get around to testing this conclusively right now, but maybe someone else has already done it? And yes, I think the rest time of dialogue abilities increases by one or something like that each time you use it.