we the spaniards have been conquered by usa as halloween shows

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Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

I'd rather celebrate Day of all Saints and honor the memory of those that has passed than have snotty little brats (and adults, for that matter) on my door in idiotic costumes begging for candy. Here in Norway there hasn't been a tradition to celebrate All Hallows Eve at all until in recent years, and it's pretty much turned into the same rubbish bullshit as Valentine's Day: A capitalistic overhyped idiocy of epic proportions.

Then again, I absolutely abhor both Halloween and Valentine's Day in general. I find both utterly ridiculous.

Well said.The problem is now there are generations of children and adults who have only ever known this to exist as it is now and therefore it has become "the normal".

[5./JG27.Farber]

post 5 and 6,

Agreed.

We should just go back to the wierd Pagan and Druid ones!

[major_setback]

Not only the Spaniards. They got the spaniels too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpvlnhyAHNw

[He111]

You might be surprised to know that here in OZ we never use to have Haloween .. too American but recently we've given in .. kids love it and what the hell, any excuse for a party.

As to Spains problem, and greece, i feel for you. The current economic system isn't working. We need far more cash in the world system, ALL countries need to keep printing money until inflation starts to bite then stop. Otherwise, like a engine that is starved of fuel, the world economic engine will just keep spluttering and stalling. Needs more fuel .. bigger the engine, the more fuel needed.

We'll that's my take anyway. which is quite strange because i'm a tea-party follower.

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[swiss]

Originally Posted by He111

kids love it and what the hell, any excuse for a party.

Bingo.
I would have loved having Halloween in Europe back in the days.

[GOZR]

I understand the changes and the problems caused by those changes but do not forget Halloween etc. were European before and disappear from our "old" continent.. now it's starting to come back.. also Spain need to change in a big way and to change the way she work and think... The need to come in the Euro Market is also a need to work on the same time as everyone else and keep some habit for the vacations only.. It's hard time.. hard changes need to be made in every corners.

[GOZR]

Oldschool they were not stolen but more of accommodated to please a general population of the time.. many Holidays are a mix of old believes and new. At the time everyone knew it but today a huge percentage of people forgot or not thought in school or by parents... and believes false things..

Wolf_Rider yes +1

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

post 5 and 6,

Agreed.

We should just go back to the wierd Pagan and Druid ones!

Samhain, (where "hallowe'en" stemmed from) is Gaelic... is that Pagan enough.

and history records that many pagan festivals where adopted by christianity and renamed... it was the only way to keep the peace on gaining control of the populations. Another assimilated, so history tells us, is Ester/ Easter (pagan fertilty festival... it always had me fascinated as to what bunnies and eggs had to do with crucifiction) with christmas coming 9 months later.

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The highlight of Halloween this year was walking back from the pub, and going past someone's house where they had a big lit pumpkin in the front window, with the words **** OFF beautifully carved into it.

Priceless.

[Wolf_Rider]

and some hapless kiddies "trick or treat'n" in one town in the UK received small bags of blow