The Sultan's Alchemist quest....erm, what?

[KaryAnn]

Originally Posted by 5h1nj1

How can anyone even remotely reference content of this beautifully cheesy and funny game to terrorism, is completely beyond me.
The fact alone suggests there something wrong with you, mate. I'm sorry about personal tragedies that may have happened to you but stop constructing absurd theories.
If you can't get rid of these connotations, stop playing the game but at the same time you might wanna stop watching TV, stop reading books, stop talking to people and so on. Because, you know, someone might mention sultans accidentally. -_-'

Yup, I already uninstalled. And yep, it's a very beautiful, cheesy game and I have been a fan of the units ever since I found it on Kongregate. It reminded me of better times. Norse content seemed like the icing on the cake.

And I'm not the one who referenced its content to terrorism, the in game quest did. Broke my heart.

If fun, campy games can no longer be innocent things that you can even let a child play, without fear of any connotations then they are no longer games designed with heart. Whatever tragedies I have suffered, it just shows that they are there. If game designers don't realize they have the power to improve someone's life just by making it better or giving them a world they don't live in, they are just not dreaming big enough.

It's like War Amps for children, where they lose a limb, and they make a mechanical one to replace the use of the old one. It will never be like the old one, but it serves its purpose. Games have the same power to treat trauma. It gives them a world they no longer have. And why not? It's not like it serves anyone to have that connotation there. If you can improve someone's life by changing it, then it's heartless to argue against it. Whether you think there's something wrong with them or not.

[5h1nj1]

Originally Posted by KaryAnn

And I'm not the one who referenced its content to terrorism, the in game quest did. Broke my heart.

It didn't. It's only in your mind.

You are overdoing it by a whole lot but hey, whatever suits you.
I was just surprised someone could act so close-minded on this. No offense, I respect your opinion but I feel you should know that your reasoning sounds really weird and a bit creepy actually.

[Fatt_Shade]

Well i have not been more amused/shocked by some post on this forum before. So lets start :
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So my question to the developers is do you have any plans of changing the background and lines of Alchemist Morrek. Or frankly, just remove Olaf's questions about his turban, what a sultan is, where that country is, what they do there, and so forth.

OMG , harem, sultan, turban = 1C obviously is funding terrorist organizations. WTF is wrong with you, how did you get form those 3 words to terrorism in modern world. They made fantasy world based on Norse world, and their mythology in which they did travel around world and had contact with Arabic nations (have you seen movie `13th warrior`?)
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Should we stop caring about 9/11? Should we forget about that too? When terrorists blow up innocent people because they want to impose their will over someone's else, we should forget about that too and say "Oh please..."?

If by terrorist here you mean CIA operatives then yea we should not forget what they did. With your reference on this date i`ll presume you`re american and hope that you dont believe everything you see on news and therefore it must be true.
3) Have you played Age of Empires games ? In them were information about time/nations/religions based on true facts form history and many players found them interesting, but there were also missions and campaigns about Saladin/Saracen which were Islamic nation at that time so obviously that game studio also support terrorists, and should be destroyed by holy empire of usa and their ever vigil guard over world peace and protection from evil of Islam. Give me a f...ing brake.
4)

This guy isn't referenced as someone who is 'obviously middle eastern' but someone who is and was around where Islam was practiced. Which puts Islam in your whole game setting.

1 character mentions 3 words that are connected to old Islamic culture, and you form that deduce that ALL game (with hundreds of NPC-s, quests, locations ...) is now set in pro-Islam settings. Really intelligent of you.
5)

Yup, I already uninstalled. And yep, it's a very beautiful, cheesy game and I have been a fan of the units ever since I found it on Kongregate. It reminded me of better times. Norse content seemed like the icing on the cake.

And I'm not the one who referenced its content to terrorism, the in game quest did. Broke my heart.

You uninstalled the game, good for you. Since it openly support terrorism in it content. You dont even deserve to play game with so interesting world with is basics in 1000+ years old if first reference you get from some silly quest dialog is modern world terrorism.
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If fun, campy games can no longer be innocent things that you can even let a child play, without fear of any connotations then they are no longer games designed with heart. Whatever tragedies I have suffered, it just shows that they are there. If game designers don't realize they have the power to improve someone's life just by making it better or giving them a world they don't live in, they are just not dreaming big enough.

When some game use Islamic characters as default terrorist/Russians are always bad guys or Germans are 100% nazis it`s OK, but in this game you found 1 piece of information about Islamic culture and their ruler and found it offensive and asked from game developers to change whole quest because of it. Whatever tragedies you suffered ... who gives a flying f..k, millions of people suffer all over world and you cry about your on game forum finding some sick connection between game quest and modern world terrorism.
7)

Of course I read everything you said, the problem you have is that the vikings did all this at different times. They didn't serve as bodyguards for the Sultans as you say while they worshipped Odin. It's a historical anachronism.

You can't just pool such a long history of a people into one segment.

Where does it say that bodyguard must bee same religion as person they guard ??? And you just pool whole religion with centuries of history, and hundreds of millions of believers into simple `they are all terrorists`description. So dont give other people lectures about generalization.
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And there was no Jewish prophet that killed and murdered, especially other Jews while trying to conquer the world. Just saying.

How about Crusades ? Done in name of church, killing millions of people, not just Muslims but also all over Europe all who didnt support crusaders were put to sword. Ever heard of Inquisition ? Who ever knew to read/write/ask questions that didnt go with Christian church way of thinking = which and burn on stake for it. Dont give us some moral lectures about other religions innocence.
And how did every nation in history got to be ? British empire expanded all over world by giving away candy ? Portugal/Spain wiped out whole South America continent by holding hands and singing with native Mayans/Inka... Did your own usa got founded from peaceful negotiations between north and south confederations in that little misunderstanding you call civil war 1861-1865 ? Your own nation have history less then 2 century ( in which you already had more then dozen wars trying to expand your territories all over world, like old empires did) , and you give other nations `no-no finger` when they try to protect themselves and you call it terrorism.

So in the end admins can ban me free for my next statement, but i think it would be worth it. KaryAnn you are ******* idiot, and you need to get the **** out of this forum with your redneck way of thinking.
Best of wishes Fatt_shade.