Flak accuracy

[salmo]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

<snip ...>As others have said the Light AA like the bofors is too accurate and fires at too greater a distance, around 4km's at moving targets...

"The Bofors L/70 40mm uses a single-barrel 40mm caliber. The gun is a development of the original 40 mm Bofors gun, the term L-70 referring to the length of the barrel in caliber. The mono bloc barrel is provided with a flash suppresser. The recuperator spring encircles the rear part of the barrel and this, together with the recuperator spring, forms an easily exchangeable unit. The recoil buffer is hydraulic and the breech mechanism has a vertically sliding breechblock, which opens and closes automatically. The rounds are loaded in 4 round clips, although most systems are fitted with a 26 round hopper. The cyclic rate of fire is 240 rpm and upgrade packages offer 300 rpm. The maximum effective range is 3 to 4 km. The Bofors L/70 40mm can fire a full range of ammunitions as the PFHE Mk2, HCHE, HE-T, APC-T, and P-T."

or from Wikipeadia Bofors Mk1:
Maximum range L/60: 7,160 m (23,490 ft) L/70: 12,500 m (41,000 ft)
Rate of fire L/60: 120 round/min L/70: 330 round/min

What do you think these parameters from the Mk1 bofors file should be changed to?

[Bofors:FiringDevice:Gun1]
StayWhenFire 1
GunHeadChunk head
GunBarrelChunk stvol
GunElevationChunk maska
GunShellStartHook Gun_01
Gun Gun.(v)-40_mm_Bofors_Mk.I
NumShells 800
AttackMaxDistance 8000
AttackMaxRadius 8000
AttackMaxHeight 8000
GunMinElevation -5
GunStdElevation 0
GunMaxElevation 89
HeadMaxYawSpeed 30
GunMaxElevationSpeed 30
ChainfireTime 8
DelayAfterShoot 5
FireFastTargets 1
MaxBarrelStroke 0.10
BarrrelWeight 50
BarrelDamping 0.2

[planespotter]

Deadliest flak platform in game is the minensuchboot. Try overflying one of them!

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by salmo

What do you think these parameters from the Mk1 bofors file should be changed to?

There was a list on the ATAG forums of AAA ranges. I can't find it right now. I see it says 8000(?!) but 8000 what? One would assume metres but once you climb to 4 or 4.5 km's they stop firing at you and with the amount on ATAG when you are over enemy terrortory you are never far away from one. I think 1000 metres would be more accurate, considering that the gunner is using an iron sight. An aircraft of 10metre span - what does that look like at 1km? Would you really fire at it?

Would this work on dedi?

[SQB]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

There was a list on the ATAG forums of AAA ranges. I can't find it right now. I see it says 8000(?!) but 8000 what? One would assume metres but once you climb to 4 or 4.5 km's they stop firing at you and with the amount on ATAG when you are over enemy terrortory you are never far away from one. I think 1000 metres would be more accurate, considering that the gunner is using an iron sight. An aircraft of 10metre span - what does that look like at 1km? Would you really fire at it?

Would this work on dedi?

I think it's 8,000ft, as I've seen flack that high, quite often, in the spitfires. That's about 2,800m for the more civilised amongst us.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by SQB

I think it's 8,000ft, as I've seen flack that high, quite often, in the spitfires. That's about 2,800m for the more civilised amongst us.

All other measurements in the game and FMB are in metres...

How would 2800 fit into my experience of 3.5 to 4km? There is more than meets the eye.

[Al Schlageter]

One Luftwaffe study estimated it took over 3,300 88-mm shells to successfully shoot down a bomber.

There was 368 (heavy), 353 (medium), and 78 (light) guns in France, Belgium, Holland. These are only for the Luftwaffe.
http://www.taphilo.com/JG26/AA-defense-reich-WWII.shtml

"German Antiaircraft Defense" from Tactical and Technical Trends

The following U.S. military intelligence report on German antiaircraft defenses was published in Tactical and Technical Trends, No. 11, Nov. 5, 1942.
http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/t...t-defense.html

3.7 cm Flak 18/36/37/43
Effective range 4,800 m (15,700 ft) (anti-aircraft)
Maximum range 6,500 m (7,100 yd) (ground range)

Ah salmo, from Wiki, the Bofors 40mm L/70 wasn't accepted into Swedish service til 1948. You should be posting the spec on the L/60.

The flak model certainly needs improvement. At the moment, large calibre flak seems to just fire randomly within a certain volume of space which does not represent how flak actually operated in real life.

Actually that is what the heavy flak did, fire at a specific area of the sky.
http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/t...erman-aaa.html

[Willia55m]

Its most of the time behind the moving target, and sometimes you can see and feel it