King’s Bounty: Warriors of the North Release Date Announced / Pre-Order Available

[Dwagginz]

Originally Posted by Mygaffer

I know some people have reported problems, maybe that was with older versions of Steam, I know Steam is a LOT better now than when I first started using it in 2007.

It is still far from perfect.

Originally Posted by Mygaffer

Actually there is a non-steamworks version of TL2 that you can buy.

That was stated on the previous page, and I sit corrected.

Originally Posted by Mygaffer

I hate it when pre-order items affect balance of a game. With New Vegas I deleted all those stupid packs, as they made the beginning of the game waaay too easy in a way that really took something away from the game itself.

Well, you can easily disable things in FO:NV, and I found those packs made the introduction a little smoother, particularly for melee playstyles. But I don't think it's been stated that this armour set will be there from release - in fact the description is that you'll find it over the course of the game, so it sounds to me like you'll probably have to buy it.

Originally Posted by Mandea

gog has old games, and that's it. can you buy dishnored from gog today? batman AC? nope. I want to play a game today, not 1 year later, or 2, or 3...

That's because GOG is not a vendor of brand new AAA titles (beyond their own releases), almost all of which come with some form of DRM. They are, however, increasingly becoming a launch platform for indie releases - Resonance, Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams, Divinity II: The Dragon Knight Saga - Developer's Cut (only that specific edition) and a number of others have released on GOG alongside - or before - other platforms.

GOG has never been advertised as anything but a vendor of classic (and now EU/Rus games from a few years ago and indie games) games, so it's a bit of a poor argument to use against them.

Originally Posted by Ryder

I'm sorry, what was that? Are you telling me when I buy the boxed version I need Steam???

That is generally the case with Steamworks games. Skyrim, Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War II, Saints Row the Third and a number of other games exclusively use Steam, regardless of the way you buy the game.

[Mandea]

Originally Posted by Dwagginz

GOG has never been advertised as anything but a vendor of classic (and now EU/Rus games from a few years ago and indie games) games, so it's a bit of a poor argument to use against them.

I don't care if it's poor or not because it wasn't meant as an argument against them. I like gog, it's just that they are very good for old games, not new. So, I don't see the point in this discussion related to gog. It's a discussions with no use in the end (about gog).

[Dwagginz]

They're good for new games if a publisher uses them. 1C are one of the publishers who could definitely benefit from releasing new titles on GOG, including Warriors of the North

[Mandea]

I guess their revenues are higher if they use steam instead of gog (steam is better known) and maybe easier. Whatever their reasons are they won't change until 26, so if you want to play this game on lauch day.....

[jake21]

I've heard (no method to confirm) that steam is cheaper (than gog) for small publishers/developers as well as having better distribution.

[Ragnin]

I think like Mandea said its probably just about the level of awareness. I know when Jeff Vogel, who runs spiderweb software, started putting his games (Avernum, Geneforge, ect.) out on steam and for cheaper he got a big leap of sales. Steam does have a huge market and so is a good choice to have a release that uses it.

I still think I should have the choice of using it or not though. Some games I would use it because I had a lot of friends who had the game and so would like the chat function and other nice things. Others I would not because I have no need for them.

I will also point out that having steam attached to the game has broken the game on release before. Usually this gets patched and fixed but sometimes is does not. My roommate has a mac and some of the games he got off of steam he has to use workarounds just to play the game because of the steam interface causing problems.