fw 190a5 flight model

[Gaston]

Originally Posted by Glider

Personally I am waiting for Gaston to take up my challenge.

If you have read all the 600 P-47 combat accounts and still don't know the P-47 badly out-turns the Me-109G in all circumstances, then there isn't much point in providing any evidence is it?

I have for years presented all of you out there with the challenge to find one combat example of the Me-109G out-turning the P-47, in any circumstance, but especially at low speeds, and still nothing has come up...

If you don't see that P-47 turning fights outnumber the one dive and zoom example you provided (indeed correctly) by a ratio of about ten or twenty to one, I wonder what is the point in debating the issue further: There are 600 P-47 combat accounts here, and so far you have provided one dive and zoom example and I have provided one more: I have read them all and there isn't a large number of those compared to P-47 turnfighting...

P-47 turnfighting also outnumbers P-51 turnfighting, and especially P-51 turnfighting at medium-low speed turning when decided within less than five-ten 360°s. Within one unsustained 360° at high speeds, the P-51 does excel occasionally at very high Gs.

However I will break it down into the actual numbers and ratios for those 600 combat reports when I have the time.

Gaston