fw 190a5 flight model

[Glider]

Originally Posted by K_Freddie

...at low speed, just above the stall. This is where Gaston is making his point.

The problem here is that its only Gastons point. No one else of any nation including the Luftwaffe agree with him. No pilot, no test result, no one, its only Gastons point.

Everyone is going 'No ways, it can out turn them as all the flight comparison tests have been done' - I'm also yet to see an official WW2 low speed turning comparison. That Russian report might be the closest that we'll ever get..

Any continious turn will develop into a slow speed turn as the aircraft bleed energy

BTW .. online the one time I had a Spit, probably a IX, on my tail when I slowed down to full flaps and 50-100ft above the ground. I went into a gentle right bank and he followed, I then threw it into a full hard RH turn at full throttle and right rudder. The Spit couldn't follow - maybe the pilot or maybe the FMs might be correct.

Interestingly you did the one thing that I would expect to work. One area that the 190 had a clear and significant advantage over the Spit is in its roll rate. By suddenly increasing your turn the SPit would find it difficult to keep up. You would be well into your turn while he is still trying to get into a position to begin to turn. You may want to try reversing your turn in a barrel roll by barrel rolling to the right, going over 270 degrees and then turn in the opposite direction to the one the Spit would expect.
In all these cases you would gain a few precious seconds and possibly get the drop on him.