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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-18-2012, 01:00 PM
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I would secondf that if the devs could actually model the average experiencelevel of pilots during BOB or any other WWII Battletheatre and other aspects that actually influenced the outcome of the battles. But this is a game. Every player here gets LOADS of more practice and gets to try over and over and learn from each mistake. The real pilots did one mistake and that was in most cases their last.
We PLAY A GAME. Call it sim or whatever. This always has to be taken into consideration because its essential to achieve one thing: FUN WHILE PLAYING. No matter the side.

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You chose a wrong sim (or game) then.

By fun by playing you obviously mean fun by winning. If the other guys have a chance too, you complain. In the chat, on the forums...

You say no matter the side but you only know one side. You never complained about the Hurricanes being 250kg too heavy because it was fun shooting them down. I understand, everybody likes winning.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:08 PM
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With the latest patch I feel very safe in a 109, unless I make a mistake. I fly high, I B n Z, and if it looks like things are going wrong, I run.

I hope we never see balance in il2, only accuracy.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:10 PM
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You can no longer afford to get hit, at all...
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:16 PM
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You can no longer afford to get hit, at all...
I feel the same in red planes though, it's not a one side only thing. The pilot is especially vulnerable. Flying with a red screen means fighting is impossible (as it should be) and an RTB or ditch is the only solution in that case.
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:17 PM
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You can no longer afford to get hit, at all...
Yes I like it. Now when the coolant / radiator is hit my 109's fate is spelt ... which is more realistic. Before one could run indefinitely and spoil the efforts of poor reds. BUT ... it looks like it's a little bit too frequent as a damage, IMHO.

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Old 10-18-2012, 02:27 PM
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Look at the profile of a 109 from behind. The rads are pretty big part of that profile. Rads are fragile for all planes. Put 1 round in and its only a matter of time not that long either. Now imagine spraying 8 machine guns or mineshells at it. I think thats pretty realistic.
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:37 PM
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Look at the profile of a 109 from behind. The rads are pretty big part of that profile. Rads are fragile for all planes. Put 1 round in and its only a matter of time not that long either. Now imagine spraying 8 machine guns or mineshells at it. I think thats pretty realistic.
I think you're mostly right. But I have the impression that rads get hit even when no .303 spraying is suffered, just stray bullets or flak shrapnels. Often the only recorded damage is in the radiator, which is quite strange. For instance I personally downed a 109 above Manston in this way, while trying the new red FMs, with only a radiator damage.

Just an impression again (but a strong one), I wouldn't put it in the bug section.

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Old 10-18-2012, 02:31 PM
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I love my 109, like Uther, still with the latest patch. Why you try to turn fight in it I don't get. Boom, give burst of MG and MGFF, zoom out. In trouble? Dive. 109 always, still, beats RAF in a dive. You don't have altitude to dive away? That's because you tried turnfighting and lost energy and altitude duh.

109 still rocks.



PS, yes i know that is not a 109e it is not a screenshot!
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:46 PM
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I love my 109, like Uther, still with the latest patch. Why you try to turn fight in it I don't get. Boom, give burst of MG and MGFF, zoom out. In trouble? Dive. 109 always, still, beats RAF in a dive. You don't have altitude to dive away? That's because you tried turnfighting and lost energy and altitude duh.

109 still rocks.



PS, yes i know that is not a 109e it is not a screenshot!
Who said hes trying to turnfight and is complaining that he cannot win in a 109? I must have overread that.

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Old 10-18-2012, 02:51 PM
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The devs need to continue to tweak the FM balance until there is equal amount of whining from both sides.
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