1C wants to make money? Surely the original P-51, B-17 and Fw-190 'financial' sense?

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by OB1

I hope the lack of information on the poor condition of the game at the time of release is not an indication of a pure profit driven attitude. Cliffs of Dover does atlest seem a passion driven project.

I do really hope they, as you said "make every effort to finish and refine the game engine and features to make the Sequel a success"

That said I also hope that costumers don't blindly go throwing their money at a sequel on faith or you do risk the common recurrence of developers in it for a quick buck, common to most other developers and publishers using status that was earned with previous success on similar products. But as you said 1c has put themselves in a position where they have to deliver or sink..

In general people should be more careful and reserved when purchasing to help cut down on the publishers taking advantage of hyped sales.

I agree the publishers were less than truthful about the state of the sim at release. It was a catch 22 situation, if they advertised we were buying an unfinished, unplayable, sim, what do you think the sales would have been? As it stands, the sales were strong enough to indicate to the investors that continued funding of the development would give them a better chance for a return on their investment.

People blindly bought COD based on the work developers have done with the original series, that "won't" happen again. Certainly not enough to sustain the development. The developers/publishers know it and we know it, thats why they will "make every effort to finish and refine the game engine and features to make the Sequel a success".

Its also interesting that most people like myself bought the sim even after reading all the bad reviews from the East, with the thought the development has a history of staying the course with their projects. They've done just that over the last couple of years, but financing drives every effort, and that forcing them to concentrate on the Sequel. That said most of the work they are doing to make the Sequel a success, will make the Channel map a success.

Even if all the fixes and features I want, don't make the Sequels release, I will buy it, if reviews indicate that the development has done enough to survive and continue their work. Hopefully most will also feel the same way and sales will be strong enough for the series to survive, improve, and prosper.

[OB1]

Originally Posted by Chivas

I agree the publishers were less than truthful about the state of the sim at release. It was a catch 22 situation, if they advertised we were buying an unfinished, unplayable, sim, what do you think the sales would have been? As it stands, the sales were strong enough to indicate to the investors that continued funding of the development would give them a better chance for a return on their investment.

People blindly bought COD based on the work developers have done with the original series, that "won't" happen again. Certainly not enough to sustain the development. The developers/publishers know it and we know it, thats why they will "make every effort to finish and refine the game engine and features to make the Sequel a success".

Its also interesting that most people like myself bought the sim even after reading all the bad reviews from the East, with the thought the development has a history of staying the course with their projects. They've done just that over the last couple of years, but financing drives every effort, and that forcing them to concentrate on the Sequel. That said most of the work they are doing to make the Sequel a success, will make the Channel map a success.

Even if all the fixes and features I want, don't make the Sequels release, I will buy it, if reviews indicate that the development has done enough to survive and continue their work. Hopefully most will also feel the same way and sales will be strong enough for the series to survive, improve, and prosper.

Its finally good to see I can have an intelligent civil conversation with someone that understands the system and the situation this company and sim is in.

Nothing you have said I can dispute, in fact I agree completely. However maybe it is my experience that leaves me in my state of mind. I bought the collectors edition blindly, the money in its self is of no consequence but I feel my trust based on the status earned earlier on in the series has been used against me.

We cannot debate this issue any further because it now comes down to a matter of opinion and the taste that have been left in peoples mouths after these years of development. My opinion and beliefs in relation to the future of COD remain the same

I myself along with the group of people I fly with will not be purchasing the sequel. Once bitten twice shy. Once they have re-proven themselves I will commit myself and support them once more.

[CaptainDoggles]

It's just common sense. A lot of us bought CLOD early, when it wasn't even released in North America yet and technically still in Beta because we believed in Maddox Games' reputation for delivering a quality product.

Obviously in light of what happened it just wouldn't make sense to shell out another 60 bucks for the sequel without waiting for reviews.

It's too bad, because I feel like I'm one of the few guys in N.A. who much prefer the Eastern front to the Western front, especially through the later years of the war. I actually really really really want to get the sequel, but if reviews aren't positive I'll stand on principle and won't buy it.