1C wants to make money? Surely the original P-51, B-17 and Fw-190 'financial' sense?

[senseispcc]

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Do not forget the 1C company is there to make money and this in the all world. So this said first IL2 Russian front then little by little all the fronts until the big problem with the USA and Grumman asking a lot of money for the copyright for their planes end the series. No with the COD a mitigated success so back to the initial triumph the Soviet against the Nazis first period June 1942 until June 1942 a lot of planes possible but not too much work to adapt the good thing from COD to the new game.
I like this period of war and wait for BOM with trepidation and curiosity.

[OB1]

Once DCS produce the FW190 and BF109 I don't think there would be any competition.

Even DCS' lack of terrain features which they are in the developing process to upgrade for combined arms. With their one WW2 aircraft and its sheer stupendously accurate and insane simulation quality and cockpit detail makes clod look like a toy and questions my beliefs on clod being a simulation.

DCS will steal the crowd. Eventually.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by OB1

Once DCS produce the FW190 and BF109 I don't think there would be any competition.

Even DCS' lack of terrain features which they are in the developing process to upgrade for combined arms. With their one WW2 aircraft and its sheer stupendously accurate and insane simulation quality and cockpit detail makes clod look like a toy and questions my beliefs on clod being a simulation.

DCS will steal the crowd. Eventually.

DCS P51 is looking good for a beta product BUT the problem is that DCS hasn't finished its P51 yet and they have never said that they are going to create a contemporary opponent for thew P-51. They don't have an appropriate map or any appropriate ground objects.

Odds are that they will make a new plane to oppose or supliment the the A-10-C or branch off in some other Weird and wonderful direction like vietnam

When you think about it we don't have a player flyable equivalent to the Blackshark yet!

DCS World at the moment product is a group of unrelated study sims. It's all out of context. And look at the time it's taken them to get the Navada map off the ground. (Has it been released yet?)

[OB1]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

DCS P51 is looking good for a beta product BUT the problem is that DCS hasn't finished its P51 yet and they have never said that they are going to create a contemporary opponent for thew P-51. They don't have an appropriate map or any appropriate ground objects.

Odds are that they will make a new plane to oppose or supliment the the A-10-C or branch off in some other Weird and wonderful direction like vietnam

When you think about it we don't have a player flyable equivalent to the Blackshark yet!

DCS World at the moment product is a group of unrelated study sims. It's all out of context. And look at the time it's taken them to get the Navada map off the ground. (Has it been released yet?)

DCS has the problem of classified information for modern aircraft that is why they are having a hard time producing aircraft to counter the KA-50

This is why they are now starting the new flying legends series. Old WW2 aircraft are now declassified and they are able to model them far quicker than modern aircraft.

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

They don't have an appropriate map or any appropriate ground objects.

Map is of little consequence, people want to fly.. people are already hosting server and dog fighting just with the one WW2 aircraft they have.

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Odds are that they will make a new plane to oppose or supliment the the A-10-C or branch off in some other Weird and wonderful direction like vietnam

They have already announced that the flying legend series is separate and is being developed in parallel with their modern projects, resources devoted to modern aircraft have no bearing on the development of the flying legend series.

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

they have never said that they are going to create a contemporary opponent for thew P-51.

They will not announce/confirm nor deny anything... however I am privileged enough to have insight in their development direction.

[JG27_brook]

Originally Posted by slm

Thanks for the official info Black6! I do understand that making a map covering the whole east front would be too much.

Well, I hope we'll see Fw-190 rather sooner than later. It was used in so many places that it could be used in many kind of missions in the game: east, west, med. More planes of any kind is what this sim needs now that the biggest engine bugs have been fixed.

+1 I have cash now for a "FW190" and no interest in any crap planes!

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by OB1

DCS has the problem of classified information for modern aircraft that is why they are having a hard time producing aircraft to counter the KA-50

This is why they are now starting the new flying legends series. Old WW2 aircraft are now declassified and they are able to model them far quicker than modern aircraft.

That is sad, What they really need to get more interest in their [a-10- black shark part of the] sim is contemporary flyable adversaries and a more diverse flyable planeset.

Originally Posted by OB1

Map is of little consequence, people want to fly.. people are already hosting server and dog fighting just with the one WW2 aircraft they have.

Just goes to show what a diverse range of people are into flight sims.

The biggest turnoff I have of DCS P-51 is the lack of context. To make it interesting for me I need contemporary maps, objects and adversaries.

Originally Posted by OB1

They have already announced that the flying legend series is separate and is being developed in parallel with their modern projects, resources devoted to modern aircraft have no bearing on the development of the flying legend series.

Sad once again. At best it will just fragment or dilute their development efforts into the different areas. The worst that could happen is that loose their current expertise in developing for the modern aircraft.

Originally Posted by OB1

They will not announce/confirm nor deny anything... however I am privileged enough to have insight in their development direction.

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Pitty you can't talk about it more. A lot of us simmers are in it for the long run, not just for instant jollies. Knowing there is a future for any of the major sims is a good thing.

[OB1]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

That is sad, What they really need to get more interest in their [a-10- black shark part of the] sim is contemporary flyable adversaries and a more diverse flyable planeset.

If you want more aircraft flaming cliffs 2 which is out now and compatible with DCS world and modules and flaming cliffs 3 to be released with more detail. Not to mention the many 3rd party project in development and is being quality controlled by eagle dynamics themselves. That gives you plenty of contemporary aircraft but not to the detail of the DCS series.

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Just goes to show what a diverse range of people are into flight sims.

The biggest turnoff I have of DCS P-51 is the lack of context. To make it interesting for me I need contemporary maps, objects and adversaries

Your right just goes to show what a diverse range of people are into flight sims. The Flying legend series is very new.. Give it the same amount of time it took clod to get of the ground if at all you can actually believe that it is, the flying legends with a capable dev team will surpass clod.

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Sad once again. At best it will just fragment or dilute their development efforts into the different areas. The worst that could happen is that loose their current expertise in developing for the modern aircraft.

Sorry you did not hear me the first time, ill clarify. they announced that this will not impede on their development efforts.

They have a big dev team, not like the 1 man we have at clod.

[slm]

Since when has CoD development been done by a one man?

[OB1]

Originally Posted by slm

Since when has CoD development been done by a one man?

Let me help you

Sarcasm: "is a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter jibe or taunt, usually conveyed through irony or understatement. Most authorities distinguish sarcasm from irony, however, others argue that sarcasm may or often does involve irony or employs ambivalence."

Bias: "is an inclination to present or hold a partial perspective at the expense of (possibly equally valid) alternatives. Anything biased generally is one-sided, and therefore lacks a neutral point of view. Bias can come in many forms and is often considered to be synonymous with prejudice or bigotry."

It has been over a year now and the progress made makes it seems like there is only 1 man.

[slm]

It's not just about how many people your team has, but who they are and what those people do. It would be interesting to know how many of the developers were in the team when CoD was first released.