bullet types effects changed-strange results!

[trademe900]

damage model is definitely a step forward with the patch. Probably the only thing this patch got right. German bomber wings don't fly off hollywood style now, 109s are not so incredibly tough to put down and resistant to pilot kills despite 8x high rpm .303 raking the entire aircraft, spitfire is still too strong in collisions though.

109 tank is easy and in fact the first thing to hit- below and behind the pilot.

[Ze-Jamz]

I took an E-1 up today and loaded it with Beo's and tracer...No Dmg whatsoever to online Spits but did Dmg AI bombers..

I come up on a Spit's high 6 who didnt see me and peppered him with all 4 guns, I could see the impacts but no DMG was shown neither was he Dmg's...I expended all my ammo in the end fighting him untill i made a run home..

landed and stats said no Dmg..

Before that I hit (or thought i did) approx 3-4 Spits through the night but didnt bring any down, just thought I was unlucky as nothing was showing on stats...

either way not good..I wont be loading them for online play again, they work fine and as they should offline and on AI as i said..

Strange

[David198502]

yep definitely strange....and for me it seems the same, meaning that there is a difference between online and offline mode...

[SlipBall]

They had the gunnery right when the sim was released, a lot has changed since.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by David198502

yep definitely strange....and for me it seems the same, meaning that there is a difference between online and offline mode...

DM & FM are different for people and bots, offline and online essentially.

[David198502]

yeah but why the heck is that the case...

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by David198502

yeah but why the heck is that the case...

Because 1c.

Very interesting and strange, David.

any information regarding the use of B Geschoss in this period? I remember the ammo was in fact quite similar to the British DeWilde and was used by Luftwaffe /maybe developed for them as well/. Was it belted in Me 109s and bomber gunners as well?

[Attila]

last night i was flying for one and a half hour on ATAG. Killed 4 Spits. After landing i saw the damageprotocol and there was alot of damages! btw, nice feature this protocol on ATAG!

[David198502]

Originally Posted by Robo.

Because 1c.

Very interesting and strange, David.

any information regarding the use of B Geschoss in this period? I remember the ammo was in fact quite similar to the British DeWilde and was used by Luftwaffe /maybe developed for them as well/. Was it belted in Me 109s and bomber gunners as well?

Hey Robo!
well, its not easy to find got sites with information about this...but ive found this:
http://www.waffen-welt.de/bilder/DiePatrone7.92x57.pdf

on page 65 there is a section about the B-Patrone.
it clearly says, that it should have explosvie as well as incendiary effects.
the article also states that it was used by the Luftwaffe...

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

I took an E-1 up today and loaded it with Beo's and tracer...No Dmg whatsoever to online Spits but did Dmg AI bombers..

I come up on a Spit's high 6 who didnt see me and peppered him with all 4 guns, I could see the impacts but no DMG was shown neither was he Dmg's...I expended all my ammo in the end fighting him untill i made a run home..

landed and stats said no Dmg..

Before that I hit (or thought i did) approx 3-4 Spits through the night but didnt bring any down, just thought I was unlucky as nothing was showing on stats...

either way not good..I wont be loading them for online play again, they work fine and as they should offline and on AI as i said..

Strange

I shot a Spit Ia on ATAG 2 days ago from some 75-50 m, dead six, MG+cannon with no Beobachtung, only AP-IET and a mix of m-Geschoss and AP-HE for the cannons, a long burst before he dove away, and the damage report showed only a "weapons damage". I believe that shooting from dead six reduces greatly (too much) the effectiveness of rounds.

Cheers!