Thinking about a Community Patch

[JtD]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

[Polares]
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lineCyCoeff 0.090
AOAMinCx_Shift 1.4760736
Cy0_0 0.14
AOACritH_0 15.5
AOACritL_0 -15.0
CyCritH_0 1.1746255
CyCritL_0 -0.91520053
CxMin_0 0.0238
parabCxCoeff_0 7.5E-4
Cy0_1 0.4086449
AOACritH_1 14.5
AOACritL_1 -19.0
CyCritH_1 1.5095204
CyCritL_1 -0.7
CxMin_1 0.06892961
parabCxCoeff_1 9.2E-4

parabAngle 8.0
Decline 0.005
maxDistAng 40.0

Straight from Il-2 1946. Was bad then, still is today.

[Chivas]

Modding the standalone COD is an option, and it would be very interesting to compare COD as it improves with each new patch and Sequel from the devs, and improvements made by modders to the Standalone COD. The devs should certainly have the advantage early considering their organized development team, with assigned tasks, and not to mention the people modding the devs series work. I'm sure some of the work done by the standalone modders could also be used in the devs series, and vis versa.

[Anders_And]

I say... lets start modding the easy things like the landscape colours and trees...
and then when we find a way to mod the FMs we should do that!

[*Buzzsaw*]

Originally Posted by JtD

Straight from Il-2 1946. Was bad then, still is today.

Salute JtD

Are you saying the way the FM is modelled in CoD is no more complex than in IL-2? Or that the Hurricane's modelling is the same?

[Liz Lemon]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

Salute JtD

Are you saying the way the FM is modelled in CoD is no more complex than in IL-2? Or that the Hurricane's modelling is the same?

Comparing IL2 vs COD flight model shows that they are largely the same variables used in the fmd. There are a few variables present in COD that aren't there in IL2 if I'm remembering things right, but its been a while since I compared them.

Of course what really matters is how the game is using those numbers, which may be significantly different in COD... or the exact same.

And that is the real problem. If we don't know how the engine is handling the variables then building an accurate flight model will be hard. Take the 150kmh Vmin for the hurricane for example. Is this how the stall speed is set or do other variables play a role?

Anyway, whats the general consensus on the most "accurate" modded fmds for hurris in IL2?



As for some of the other suggestions.

Bumping down texture resolution shouldn't do much if the game is handling mipmaps and the in-game texture settings properly. Of course testing will be needed to verify this.

[maxwellbest]

Interesting thread. My impressions of community mods for IL2 1946 are very positive. Particularly the FM mods by Aaken. However, I doubt if UBI or 1c would allow the source code to be released as such. My hope is TD would get the rights to patch, don't know whats in it for TD, whether they are a bunch of uber geeks who get satisfaction from playing with source code or the like. But they have done very impressive things with IL2 '46, kudos to them.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

Salute JtD

Are you saying the way the FM is modelled in CoD is no more complex than in IL-2? Or that the Hurricane's modelling is the same?

Many of the parameters in the FM file are the same as used in the FM file for Il-2 (2007). CloD might use them a little differently, might also have a few parameters on top of it. But I guess they're going to use the in a very similar way, unless they've thrown physics overboard.

[Verhängnis]

Originally Posted by JtD

Straight from Il-2 1946. Was bad then, still is today.

But there is some complicated mathematics going on inside for each of those, it's not great, but considering what they had, it works well.

Originally Posted by Liz Lemon

We need a working .msh converter for the cockpits to work.

I managed to get the existing one to work and convert the meshes, mostly, to text and readable. And then I tried to no avail to track down the original creator Mr.Jones and found every existence of his on the internet down to his last employer but I think he had even moved on from there. Not to mention that the 3d view doesn't even work in Windows 7.