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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-02-2012, 08:18 AM
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My point with BoB2 clouds is not that they compare with RoF, agree they do not, but that they are better than CoD many ways. No fps hit, multi altitudes layers and types, and you can hide, the AI can't see in them.

RoF is the new benchmark tho.

The prob is clearly these devs have blinkers like a horse, which they need to lose, and change mindset before they will have success. B6 admits they don't play their own game, so they obviously don't play other sims in a serious way to see what the competition is doing.

Except War Thunder. I bet and hope they are playing that to learn from.
The AI can see thru the clouds in BOB WOV, unless they changed it in the last couple of years. There was a rumour a few years ago that the AI couldn't see thru clouds but it was untrue. B6 admitted "he" didn't play COD, not "they don't play their own game".

I hope WarThunder does give the new IL-2 series some competition, hopefully its alot better than WOP with its small maps and partial airstarts that were only good for mindless furbals. I bought the nineteen dollar version of WarThunder, but all the offline missions are locked at least in the version I have, so I haven't had much interest in flying it yet, to make any kind of evaluation.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:21 AM
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They cannot see through the clouds. It has been changed for quite a while.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:17 PM
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They cannot see through the clouds. It has been changed for quite a while.
Around three years ago it was rumoured that the AI couldn't see thru clouds in BOB WOV, but the developer set the record straight and said they could, but that doesn't mean they haven't changed it since then, although I think its unlikely.
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:11 PM
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My biggest disappointment is what has been said about Coops.

Also some confusion whether CLOD will benefit from updates in the sequal i.e. improved clouds/water or what ever. Is this going to work like IL2 did?

Other than that I am a bit more impressed after the 2nd set of answers, I don't think the jokes in the first lot were such a good idea as flight simmers are slightly passionate about the subject.

Also fairly impressed with the patch. Still not played online since December last year but I am a little more tempted with the apparent improvements to spotting aircraft and them not vanishing as the dots change to a shape.

Please please think about a way to implement some form of coop other than the dogfight server type we have now.
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:41 PM
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My biggest disappointment is what has been said about Coops.

Also some confusion whether CLOD will benefit from updates in the sequal i.e. improved clouds/water or what ever. Is this going to work like IL2 did?

Other than that I am a bit more impressed after the 2nd set of answers, I don't think the jokes in the first lot were such a good idea as flight simmers are slightly passionate about the subject.

Also fairly impressed with the patch. Still not played online since December last year but I am a little more tempted with the apparent improvements to spotting aircraft and them not vanishing as the dots change to a shape.

Please please think about a way to implement some form of coop other than the dogfight server type we have now.
I understand why Luthier is not wanting to address the coop issue, if he fixes it for us then there is a good chance we could get online wars happening again, this may interfere with his plans for an MMO later which could be a potential cash cow for him.
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Pure speculation and almost certainly bullsh*t
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Explain to me then why Luthier will not address the coop problem in CLOD or the sequel when so many of his customers have said they think it is a very important feature?
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:42 AM
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You seriously expect any competition from an arcade MMO game, that can be played with mouse and keyboard? Are you kidding me?
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You seriously expect any competition from an arcade MMO game, that can be played with mouse and keyboard? Are you kidding me?
Exactly

Not sure if it's true but I hear that you can't belly land in warthunder as you just blow up and from the videos the damage model makes vanilla 1946 look good!!
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:28 AM
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Not sure if it's true but I her that you can't belly land in warthunder as you just blow up and from the videos the damage model makes vanilla 1946 look good!!
I saw video with external view, external crosshairs, and the Spit shot down both wing of He 111 with one burst... "detailed and complex damage system."... suuuure
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