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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-01-2012, 03:17 PM
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I developed real sympathy for mr shevchenko from his answers. he comes over like a real person and i feel i understand better why he has such a relationship with fans of the franchise, i really do.

but as usual it is answers like this which make you lose sympathy because of arrogance and because they are just simple incorrect:

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1. What specifically is preventing clouds from being depicted in a volume and quality that is competitive with other sims currently on the market?

Are you saying there is a sim out there today that has clouds of better quality at greater volume, and offering better performance? I.e. matches all three criteria, quality, volume, and FPS?

Because I know there isn’t.

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Isn't? I must be playing games that don't exist then? Rise of Flight, Battle of Britain II even, War Thunder, Wings of Prey . . . all of these have great clouds in quality, and volume and high fps.

Understanding the competition and recognising they have strengths, is a basic first business skill Mr Shevchenko

and PS, you have the same blind spot about dogfighting AI.
Agreed... So I expect the next game to have better clouds than this

http://riseofflight.com/SharedResour...12_03_23/4.htm
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:03 PM
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[QUOTE=JG52Krupi;465826]Agreed... So I expect the next game to have better clouds than this

http://riseofflight.com/SharedResour...12_03_23/4.htm[/QUOTE

Or this:




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Old 10-01-2012, 05:31 PM
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If you think BOB II has better clouds you've got eye sight problems, and that screenshot is a perfect example, don't get me wrong BOB II is a GREAT game, many aspects of it are excellent, the AI in particular is unrivaled by any other flight sim, but it just can't hold a candle to bob for it's environment and lighting, and yes that means the clouds too, not to mention the depth of modeling at the aircraft level, Wings of prey is an arcade shooter and does so much less then COD it's like comparing Team Fortress 2 to ARMA 2, chalk and cheese mate, chalk and cheese.

As far as Luither's posts go, I personally say excellent responses for the most part, I got the humour he intended pretty much straight away, although I can see why some people got a bit antsy over them, text doesn't always convey what is ACTUALLY meant, and the tone can sometimes be misunderstood.

I liked the general tone of the answers, they seemed like real answers coming from a real person, and for that I'm very grateful, and his frank honesty has given me faith in the sequel, and where the series is headed, some were certainly not some of the answers I wanted, but I've always preferred brutal honesty over pretty BS so they doesn't bother me too much, you always know where you stand with it, and thats the way I like it.

Although some of the replies I've read here from some forum members has only confirmed to me at least the type of people they really are, hopefully they really do stay away this time.

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Agreed... So I expect the next game to have better clouds than this

http://riseofflight.com/SharedResour...12_03_23/4.htm[/QUOTE

Or this:



Really not sure what I am looking at there to be honest!!! Urghhh
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I'd settle for standard IL2 1946 clouds to be honest.
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Thankyou for clarifying some of your answers. I realize that the rude manor in which some of them were asked can make a civil answer difficult. Yes the forums are very negative, but I still think the silent majority understand the difficulties, and will continue to support the series, "IF" the reviews are good, and substantial improvements are made to many of COD's issues in the Sequel.

You mentioned that the community hasn't yet provided the level of input you had hoped for in regards to campaign building etc. There was less community input because the sim wasn't playable for a large portion of the community that could have made these improvements. Now that you have addressed many of the performance issues this aspect should improve. Campaign builders seem to be having issues using some complex features in the FMB. Are there problems in the FMB, and if so what problems are your team addressing?

You mentioned there won't be anymore aircraft built for COD. I understand this, but it should be mentioned whether its obvious or not that some aircraft built for the Sequels will be available and historical to the Channel map. Or am I wrong to assume this?
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A better example of what BOM should be aiming at...









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A better example of what BOM should be aiming at...







Nice, thanks Furbs my one was just taken from the ROF website.
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Furbs, what are your RoF video settings? Those look superb.
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Furbs, what are your RoF video settings? Those look superb.

I use NV inspector and a custom profile.

I can send you it if you want?

Those clouds are just fantastic, almost no FPS drop and water on the goggles.

I hope BOM will be able to compete.
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