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Old 08-26-2012, 12:18 AM
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It's like buying an import car in U.S or U.K and find the owner's manual is in it's maker's original Korean, Japanese or German language and if you asked for the manual in English, the dealer's response would be: Google it yourself!Cheers.
Straw man argument. This is a WW2 historical flight sim not a car. It presupposes some knowledge or interest in the field.
That said, if you can't work up a basic interest to do some research when you come across something you don't know about, then why are you bothering, really? I quite enjoy researching and learning new stuff, but that might just be me.

Alternatively you could always follow idefix44's link and print a copy out.
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http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...es-mean-Forums
I think that you'll be able to find a tuto to learn how to scroll in the page linked above...
Sorry if this sounds harsh, but the tools and information are all out there and not hard or time consuming to find or use. To completely reject these smacks of something that starts to look a bit like laziness.

It has been a long time since I read the pdfs that come with the game, but aren't all these weapons systems decribed in there anyway? The car manual so to speak?
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:10 AM
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Not specifically aimed at 4.12, but it would be nice if the damage model sequence especially those related to wing or engine nacelle hits could trigger the dropping of one or both of the under cart, as this seems to be quite a regular occurrence in a lot of archival footage.

In regards to munitions naming debate above, I for one like it the way it is and when I'm in doubt I look it up.
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:53 AM
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I do agree that it is just impossible to translate the names of loadouts or whatever into english. Why English by the way, and not Russian, German or Uzbek? Il2 is played world-wide.
Still I think it is too harsh to accuse people of lazyness, just because they do not know something or do not know how to look for it (Everything is just dead simple, if you only happen to know it). But some things are not as easy as they look at first sight. For example: what does "default load-out" mean for an ac that is not included into the data-base. A simple solution would be an update of the Database, that has not been done since the very beginning of the game. Including a new section: "load-outs". Imho it should not be too hard to do, because the TD guys have all the knowledge, information and sources (it still needs time, I know ...).
Thus even casual players could find the info without leaving the game.

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Old 08-26-2012, 11:01 AM
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The perhaps the in-game encyclopaedia which is looking less and less encyclopaedic should be given an overhaul including sections on aircraft armaments (guns, ordnance etc) and ground & sea units & their armaments.
Perhaps TD could subcontract some of this work as I'd prefer to see them continue to spend their valuable and freely given time and effort on coding enhancements and new content.
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:03 PM
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Still I think it is too harsh to accuse people of lazyness, just because they do not know something
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It's not because they don't know, it's because they don't want to find out themselves, asking instead, that someone would make it more easy and convenient for them.

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... or do not know how to look for it
And don't tell us, people, who can play IL-2, can't use Internet search.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:31 PM
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Some like to help. Some don´t.

By the way: I would volunteer to translate the texts from English to German.
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