Aircraft peformances, is this joke ?

[tintifaxl]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Or push your WEP button for 1.33 ata repeatedly with no ill effects at all for a whole tankful of gas.

I would call that glitching. Should be instant kick on a server.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by tintifaxl

I would call that glitching. Should be instant kick on a server.

Ha!

In fairness, the same can be said for those dastardly Red pilots that fly with canopies open (ie. "sonar") to listen for those 109 pilots sneaking up from behind. None of whom continuously use their WEP buttons, of course!

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Ha!

In fairness, the same can be said for those dastardly Red pilots that fly with canopies open (ie. "sonar") to listen for those 109 pilots sneaking up from behind. None of whom continuously use their WEP buttons, of course!

What about those 109 pilots that jettison their canopies to get an even standing (or simply open their side windows)? <: )

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

What about those 109 pilots that jettison their canopies to get an even standing? <: )

A plague on all of us!!!! LOL

My ultimate wish for Cliffs of Dover? That Ilya would approach IvanK with the sole wish of resolving the FM issues once and for all for EVERY a/c, including bombers. IvanK would be free to pick whomever he wanted from this community to assist -- but he has Final Say. Ilya could send IvanK periodic (ie. FREQUENT) betas dealing with FM adjustments only...along with readme files (a nice thing to have)....with adjustments based on IvanK's input on the prior FM Betas. Once IvanK signs off on the final FM Beta, then that's it. Done. IvanK is given a nice Morris roadster for his trouble, and we can then move on to quibble about hedgerows vs tree-lined lanes after that.

Or how much the tachometer needle should jitter......(uh oh, shouldn't have said that.....)

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

A plague on all of us!!!! LOL

My ultimate wish for Cliffs of Dover? That Ilya would approach IvanK with the sole wish of resolving the FM issues once and for all for EVERY a/c, including bombers. IvanK would be free to pick whomever he wanted from this community to assist -- but he has Final Say. Ilya could send IvanK periodic (ie. FREQUENT) betas dealing with FM adjustments only...along with readme files (a nice thing to have)....with adjustments based on IvanK's input on the prior FM Betas. Once IvanK signs off on the final FM Beta, then that's it. Done. IvanK is given a nice Morris roadster for his trouble, and we can then move on to quibble about hedgerows vs tree-lined lanes after that.

Or how much the tachometer needle should jitter......(uh oh, shouldn't have said that.....)

Wish it was so easy. You know this community. Whatever numbers the gents from Maddox Games put in here, there will always be somebody with a chart trying to prove them wrong, does not matter blue or red or pink or whatever.

That has such a long history that I don't know what to believe anymore anyways and just fly the damn things as they.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Ain't that the truth!

The reason I specified IvanK is because I believe his judgement would be respected by both sides. They may not agree with certain aspects, but he certainly represents himself as even-handed and knowledgeable with both LW and RAF aircraft. As it stands now, the devs seem incapable or unwilling to apply hard data into credible Flight Models. Witness the ongoing RAF fighter debacle that has gotten progressively worse with each CoD iteration, per my earlier post. Certainly both LW and RAF aircraft need serious FM overhauls, including fighters of either side that can actually exceed 30,000 feet!

As it stands now, it would appear that the devs cannot deliver aircraft that either side can accept in terms of FM's, unless they enlist and heed someone such as IvanK to put things right.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Ain't that the truth!

The reason I specified IvanK is because I believe his judgement would be respected by both sides. They may not agree with certain aspects, but he certainly represents himself as even-handed and knowledgeable with both LW and RAF aircraft. As it stands now, the devs seem incapable or unwilling to apply hard data into credible Flight Models. Witness the ongoing RAF fighter debacle that has gotten progressively worse with each CoD iteration, per my earlier post. Certainly both LW and RAF aircraft need serious FM overhauls, including fighters of either side that can actually exceed 30,000 feet!

As it stands now, it would appear that the devs cannot deliver aircraft that either side can accept in terms of FM's, unless they enlist and heed someone such as IvanK to put things right.

It "could" work this way. Clearly lots of stuff has to be revised. I think one major problem with altitudes, however, is the lack of propper high altitude atmospheric modelling. I remember a post by Luthier stating that this will come with the sequel.

Funny, they will implement it with a low level combat scenario.
That said, imho, everything making airplanes work in the first place should be fixed with priority.

Does not make much sense to have a propper speeding Spitfire when the Bombers can't level bomb due to Lofte issues to begin with. A Me109 with real life climb speed won't be much of an achiecement if the Hurricane can't even get it's engine started.

Too many basics have to be fixed first before going into fine tuning. But that is just my personal stance.