The 'Great Debate' - Spitfire vs BF109

[Seadog]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

@Seadog : this graph is highly controversial... but you know that alrdy

Anything that shows Luftwaffe aircraft trailing RAF aircraft in performance is automatically deemed "controversial" by the 100 Octane Deniers club.

[TomcatViP]

Originally Posted by Seadog

Anything that shows Luftwaffe aircraft trailing RAF aircraft in performance is automatically deemed "controversial" by the 100 Octane Deniers club.

That's not true. I don't have any preferences for the LuftW. I fly red as much as I fly on blue side. The only thing I am battling is the Fantasies of some Spit's illusionists. So I am a non-believer of the theories some are putting frwrd. And once more, this is legitimate in a forum (read it in the ancient roman sense).

[Seadog]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

That's not true. I don't have any preferences for the LuftW. I fly red as much as I fly on blue side. The only thing I am battling is the Fantasies of some Spit's illusionists. So I am a non-believer of the theories some are putting frwrd. And once more, this is legitimate in a forum (read it in the ancient roman sense).

Which "fantasies" are you referring to?

[6S.Manu]

Originally Posted by Seadog

Which "fantasies" are you referring to?

Fantasies like this one?

No wonder Galland asked for a squadron of Spitfires...

[Seadog]

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

Fantasies like this one?

No wonder Galland asked for a squadron of Spitfires...

OK, Galland states in his memoirs, The First and the Last, that he asked for an "...outfit of Spitfires, for his group..."

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Seadog

OK, Galland states in his memoirs, The First and the Last, that he asked for an "...outfit of Spitfires, for his group..."

Inadmissible using Farbers logic, Galland wen't on to say it was out of frustration and had no bearing on how he rated the Spitfire but of course being a human recounting a tale from the past he obviously didn't know what he was speaking about and he probably really did wan't a squadron of Spitfires.

[Seadog]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Inadmissible using Farbers logic, Galland wen't on to say it was out of frustration and had no bearing on how he rated the Spitfire but of course being a human recounting a tale from the past he obviously didn't know what he was speaking about and he probably really did wan't a squadron of Spitfires.

Hmm so we can also discount Gallands assement of the 109e/Spitfire as being "...not so suitable for purely defensive purposes as the Spitfire, which, although a little slower, was much more manoeuvrable..."

Since we all know that the Spitfire was somewhat faster...

[TomcatViP]

Originally Posted by Seadog

OK, Galland states in his memoirs, The First and the Last, that he asked for an "...outfit of Spitfires, for his group..."

Understand that Galland was a dignitary of the Nazi regime and as such might have needed to pleased the ear of the winners. Have yuou seen the vid when he did say that ? Hve a look, you'll understand what I mean.

This anecdote was debated by historian and among prime witnesses of that "scene" when asked the question replied that they don't remember G. saying that to RMG.

But once again and blablabla...

[6S.Manu]

Originally Posted by Seadog

OK, Galland states in his memoirs, The First and the Last, that he asked for an "...outfit of Spitfires, for his group..."

And what does he say after that paragraph? How does he end the issue?

[Seadog]

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

And what does he say after that paragraph? How does he end the issue?

"...Such brazen-faced impudence made even Goering speechless. He stamped off, growling as he went..."