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[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

On the matter of flak now...

Flak is not AA... if this was in refrence to what I mentione earlier - there is a diffrence.


Today I challanged the RAF the to come up to altitude - AND THEY DID! AWESOME!

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Flak is not AA... if this was in refrence to what I mentione earlier - there is a diffrence.


Today I challanged the RAF the to come up to altitude - AND THEY DID! AWESOME!

Despite the usual tactic of swirling around on the deck, I've noticed some serious RAF presence at altitude of late. The =AN= guys have been climbing up to where the Spit outperforms the 109 and then using team tactics to dominate.

I try to stay away if I don't have a wingman

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Today I challanged the RAF the to come up to altitude - AND THEY DID! AWESOME!

You don't have to challenge anyone, we fly high regardless of your silly remarks in the chatline.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Despite the usual tactic of swirling around on the deck, I've noticed some serious RAF presence at altitude of late. The =AN= guys have been climbing up to where the Spit outperforms the 109 and then using team tactics to dominate.

I try to stay away if I don't have a wingman

We fly at different timezones so we never really meet on ATAG, I know =AN= fellas are flying high and so is quite a few of other pilots I know. I would not say Mk.II outperforms the 109 up there, I'd say the performance gap is not as big as at lower altitudes and by deploying some decent team tactics it is possible to have a nice and even(-ish) fights. You can't really dominate a pilot with equal skill even up there. Despite the ususal tactics of running home when things get hotter I am really having fun with higher alt dogfights with the 109s.

As for flying low - I guess it's the same on both sides, only certain squads bother climbing. You can't generalise and also, not everybody enjoys flying at 20k when the skies are empty because the blues are somewhere at 1km above Hawkinge (Manston, Lympne...). Fair enough. It's when I see the I./JG26 boys or our JG26 lads joining when I know the real fun and challenge begins and I climb from my 15000 to 20000 feet. All the best on the US side of the ATAG mate.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Robo.

I would not say Mk.II outperforms the 109 up there

I think once you get up to about 6000m/~19000ft then the 109 loses its speed advantage.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Was escorting some bombers after had dropped my bombs on a target. Was flying around 5-6km altitude in the Bf110C-7 and we got engaged by Spitfires. I think Robo was there and some others. But it was rather easy to keep distance from a Spitfire in the Bf110C-7, their speed difference is not that big and I bet most of it boils down how well you trim the plane. I had mine pretty nicely in trim at all times and kept RPM at optimal, required a lot of prop pitch adjusting but manageable Shame the Bf110 turns like a brick, but if you get to B&Z it holds it's own quite well

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

I think once you get up to about 6000m/~19000ft then the 109 loses its speed advantage.

They become about equal at said altitude, I wouldn't say that by losing speed advantage you're getting 'outperformed'. I agree with what Flanker35M says - you can get bnzd even up there if you're not careful and it boils down to CEM and trim (overall skill I would say). I really enjoy these kinds of flights, I guess larger bomber groups flying at 17000 also helped so well don ATAG! Yeah and you're right btw, you got involved with No.64 and No.501 Squadrons, there were two 110 escorting the bombers - nice view and good job. S!

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

I think once you get up to about 6000m/~19000ft then the 109 loses its speed advantage.

Use your head not your heart, keep your energy and speed, never turn with him and stay on top..........


I'm regretting not joining in btw, I could have but chose to play a bit of guitar instead.....all on my lonesome....yet I could've been nailing Fritz for the second day running.

A message to those ATAG loners, if you want to get involved in a crew then look us up, we like to be up high and in some sort of organised fight. We recruit all standards for red or blue (since we also run JG26)
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...67&postcount=5