Man Made Global Warming

[5./JG27.Farber]

David Hayward and AndyJWest...

Never on this forum have I ever seen anyone who are so nasty, angry and close minded. Not to mention, ignorant and childish. Its a dicussion guys! If you have your concrete belief thats fine. However to just trash the thread with a stone hard belief and get upset because someone else doesnt agree with you is... well its unreal. Its also not the first time I have seen you two do this.



MadBlaster,
thanks for sharing. I believe those solar panals are going to be a big mistake. Not the concept but because they havent got it right yet asthetically. I think PV panals will detract from the value of a house, especially in the future when the weather has been at them for a few years.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

David Hayward and AndyJWest...

Never on this forum have I ever seen anyone who are so nasty, angry and close minded. Not to mention, ignorant and childish. Its a dicussion guys! If you have your concrete belief thats fine. However to just trash the thread with a stone hard belief and get upset because someone else doesnt agree with you is... well unreal.

I'm not close minded at all. If the scientific consensus on global warming changes, my views will change.

BTW, not agreeing with ignorant propaganda does not make one "close minded".

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

I'm not close minded at all. If the scientific consensus on global warming changes, my views will change.

I dont think simply believing what we are told is a solid route forward.

Originally Posted by David Hayward

BTW, not agreeing with ignorant propaganda does not make one "close minded".

No it does not. However not listening to an opposing arguement and replying your doubt in a respectable manner and agreeing to disagree does.


I think we should all stop here. Agreed?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

I dont think simply believing what we are told is a solid route forward.

That's not how science works. Scientists study a subject and write papers explaining their findings. They provide evidence. The papers are published, reviewed and evaluated. No one "just believes what they are told".

And right now the scientific consensus is that global warming is largely the result of human activity. If evidence countering that consensus is found, then it will be probably change. Again, no one "just believes what they are told".

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

No it does not. However not listening to an opposing arguement and replying your doubt in a respectable manner and agreeing to disagree does.

I'll listen to an opposing argument when a credible one is made.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Ill let you have the last word.

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

I think we should all stop here. Agreed?

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[AndyJWest]

5./JG27.Farber, when you start a thread by making accusations like this:

Carbon foot print and all that balls is just lies. Were being taxed on lies.

... you have no right to complain. Not to mention your suggestion that my politics has anything to do with it. Or does Margaret Thatcher's politics also 'bias' her towards accepting the scientific consensus too? You were clearly trolling right from the start. That all you've done is demonstrate once again the wilful ignorance of the denialists is your own fault.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Sorry I wasn't making myself clear on the tax part. I was specifically referring to ROAD tax which as you know in the UK is based on vehicle emissions and not weight. Which is clearly balls. As weight not emissions is what damages roads and road tax is supposed to be there to maintain those roads.

So you can drive an electric car as much as you want road tax free. However drive a regular car, your paying around 210 quid (It varies, mines a 1.9 diesel). From what Ive seen on car tax the slider goes around 50 pounds either way. However hybrids and electrics are free.

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

MadBlaster,
thanks for sharing. I believe those solar panals are going to be a big mistake. Not the concept but because they havent got it right yet asthetically. I think PV panals will detract from the value of a house, especially in the future when the weather has been at them for a few years.

wait, generating electricity, albeit in as yet insignificant amounts and as inefficient as current tech is, is aesthetically undesirable and shouldn't be done?

our energy needs are astronomical and increasing daily. any way we can meet them should be grabbed with both hands, a good deal of enthusiasm and with a desire to increase energy output. to reduce reliance on finite resources and reduce pollutant output goes hand in hand with that.