Spit IIa is now so much more inferior to the 109

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Originally Posted by ReconNZ

Why play red at all?

I was just in a dog fight online in a IIa getting boomed and zoomed by a 109 - he had 30 - 40% more lift and speed on me on every sweep past and he just flew away from me everytime. Seriously, there is no way that is historically correct. I am an ok pilot, I know about energy etc, but the 109 is such a better plane in this sim now, there is no point trying to fly in a dogfight 1 on 1 if you're in a spit.

The 109's are the only planes that didnt get spanked in the new patch, what the hell is that all about???

Not to mention the 109's just fly away when the do run out of ammo, and the spits cant even get close to catching them.

Honestly It kills the game, why play red at all, if the 109s continue to be so much better, pilots will go somewhere else, leaving nothing but blue planes on their own.

I'm a blue pilot, but I flew a couple of hours on ATAG as a red one just to test the new FM's. I had several dogfights on the Spit IIa with 109's and never lost one. I have indeed reversed tables regularly when attacked by surprise from behind, with the automagical Spit no-E-loss-1 barrel-roll maneuver. In horizontal there is no way a Spit could loose, in vertical it's slightly more difficult but still feasible. The 30-40% more lift and speed is a very inaccurate estimate, IMO, in a 1 vs 1 the Spit IIa has better chances than the 109. This matches my experience on the 109, the Spit IIa is still a superior plane in co-E 1 vs 1.

I friendly suggest you to fly a 109 and go against the Spit II, just to make yourself an idea.

Cheers!