Is this the New Winston Churchill?

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

You won't solve anything by throwing up your arms while running around yelling "the future is bleak, we all will suffer, seek salvation!"

LOL!
That was actually funny.

Then again that's not really me.

Nature really does not matter about what is done to her.

That's the rock I was speaking of, you missed the point.
If you had to decide between burning down a forest where a large population of animal XY lives[let's say they will be extinct afterwards], and a few hundred(or thousands) humans who rely on this future farmland to survive - how would you decide?

The nuclear winter effect btw is pure hypothetical, I think it's bogus.
Now, the funny thing about nukes is the fact, that if everyone has some, no one can use them. Plus, there's no need for them; we have proven to be very effective with conventional weapons in our past.

This was probably enough OT, you guys continue with your pro/contra EU debate, enjoy.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by swiss

LOL!
That's the rock I was speaking of, you missed the point.
If you had to decide between burning down a forest where a large population of animal XY lives[let's say they will be extinct afterwards], and a few hundred(or thousands) humans who rely on this future farmland to survive - how would you decide?

Well..what would the animal do?
Though people usually tend to think of themselves being above animals, most of us act just like that subconciously. That is the reason why we are in this place to begin with. That is how nature made us and how eveolution works, make sure you survive and produce lots of offsrping, f*ck the rest. Humanity just is the most successful animal in this regard due to brain power -> adaptability. Only Rats and Canides come close in their spreading around the world.

When I said ppl need to grow up, it is simply the ability to put intelligence above this instinct and gut feeling and look at the big picture. The same now applies to you in refards to finding solutions to our problems then simply kill half the human population.

The nuclear winter effect btw is pure hypothetical, I think it's bogus.
Now, the funny thing about nukes is the fact, that if everyone has some, no one can use them. Plus, there's no need for them; we have proven to be very effective with conventional weapons in our past.

This was probably enough OT, you guys continue with your pro/contra EU debate, enjoy.

Theoretical, to be precise. But notwithstanding how deterenace works, you said you looked for global war. And we all know that in a war, when one side becomes desperate, then desperate measures are more willingly taken into account then in peace time.

Regardless, I do not think war these days between the industrial countries is something to look forward to, we have have become even more destructive then compared to WW2, even without the nuclear option.