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[carguy_]

Originally Posted by furbs

Have a look at the thread title Carguy, you must of know what the subject matter would be right? yet you cant help reading and posting in here.

Yes, I expected its content. I found false information posted by some users, more of the same meaningless speculation with no grounds whatsoever. In my opinion 1C does not deserve any of this. As long as you post based on the truth then I can`t do nothing about it. It is your interpretation of the data and the event. It is wrong, not true and that is why I need to point it out. Tree_UK has switched the patch topic to a whole different vision which does not in any way reflect what 1C is doing. There are many users reading this stuff and draw wrong conclusions. This needs to be countered - not with speculation but rational interpretation of the data and events. You speak through rage. I speak through what I analised.

you dont like my post so you attack me!

If you read that as an attack then it is not my fault. I asked you a question. Maybe you have relevant grounds to post what you post, but you certainly didn`t explain them so far. If all what you posted was he truth and not speculation through rage, I wouldn`t even make one post here.

Its another reason to complain?, its the same reason as 14 months ago, tell you what might help Carguy, put me on ignore.

If I put you and others on ignore, I couldn`t counter the misinforming you and others do.

[Vittuuntunut]

Originally Posted by carguy_

If I put you and others on ignore, I couldn`t counter the misinforming you and others do.

The most serious misinformation is to say that CLOD, in it´s current state (after 14 months of patching!) is a product that should be on the retailers self. I can´t even describe how it pisses me off when the usual suspects praise this game on different forums (Banana, Ubi, SimHQ) to people who are considering buying it and asking if it´s playable yet (some maybe even considering upgrading their rig just to play CLOD!!!!!)

It´s not, if you apply the real world standards (if you wonder what these might be, try looking e.g. DCS-series).

Yeayeayeayeayea, "some people can run it fluently", "some people don´t have problems", "it´s playable"

Get real!

This game has already enough alpha/beta testers. Most of them (myself included) would have never paid 50 € to be one.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Vittuuntunut

The most serious misinformation is to say that CLOD, in it´s current state (after 14 months of patching!) is a product that should be on the retailers self. I can´t even describe how it pisses me off when the usual suspects praise this game on different forums (Banana, Ubi, SimHQ) to people who are considering buying it and asking if it´s playable yet (some maybe even considering upgrading their rig just to play CLOD!!!!!)

Please note that opinions differ. Some say better never release it in this state, others say at least the title is out and 1C can continue working on it.
But yes, if somebody is saying that CloD is a full working product the it is the same type of misinformation.

It´s not, if you apply the real world standards (if you wonder what these might be, try looking e.g. DCS-series).

Yeayeayeayeayea, "some people can run it fluently", "some people don´t have problems", "it´s playable"

What is so untrue in "some people can run it fluently"?

This game has already enough alpha/beta testers. Most of them (myself included) would have never paid 50 € to be one.

Did you try to get your refund?

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by furbs

So only your opinion is the truth? and mine is not?

What I post repeatedly are facts. Information. You are posting an interpretation of them which is obviously wrong.

Can you prove what i have said is untrue?

How can I prove you wrong since you don`t have anything to support your claims?

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by furbs

Again what part of my earlier post is untrue?

Originally Posted by furbs

You can just forget them adding dynamic weather, coops or any other major feature for years, its just not going to happen.

But ofcourse if you can provide a quote by Luthier/BlackSix/other 1C representative confimring that then I`ll delete my posts.

BTW to be more explaining.
My post #223 is information.
My post #232 is speculation/opinion. But I underlined this.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by furbs

Ahem, Luthier has said dynamic weather is only coming with BOM, which is over a year away. fact
Luthier said no IL2 coop's. fact.
No more content for CLOD. fact.

And you want me to take you seriously?

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by furbs

I dont give a toss what you do.
Im just putting you right.

So again what part is untrue?

I just answered that question. Can`t you read either?

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by furbs

Again a attack. That's 2 times in this thread alone. Is that your only comeback?

Then go ahead and report. If that is in fact an attack then I will get an infraction.

I just put you up against the wall. You started sqeaking failed notes. It is ok with me if you don`t want to continue. You are a phoney, furbs.

[kendo65]

Good posts from lensman and Mysticpuma in this thread. I find a lot to agree with in both their positions.

Here’s where I’m at. The alpha patch has produced a performance increase for me (and others). There are obviously a lot of bugs and issues, but they've stated it's an alpha and I’m willing to take them at face value for now and reserve judgement until the beta / final releases of the patch.

There is a lot of wild speculation merging into full-blown conspiracy theory flying around once again. Personally, I’ve always found the ‘screw-up’ point of view more convincing than the conspiracy theories. That’s true for this patch as well.

The deciding moment will come once the patch hits beta and then full Steam release. If it isn’t solid and producing good results by then I would say that everyone is justified to complain and or even abandon the game. Like many, my own patience has been pushed very close to breaking over the last 6+ months. The devs know this patch HAS to cut it. I’m willing to wait until it is final before passing judgement.

As for the speculation about them fobbing us off with a stalling tactic, rip-off patch and then not seeing anything else until BOM – there’s no evidence for it. Believe it if you want - OR wait for a few weeks and see for yourself what happens. We’ll all find out soon enough.

For now though some of the talk is getting hysterical.

[GloDark7]

In trials of a leading hair growth tonic, 60% of balding men noticed new hair growth.

In trials of a leading anti-aging cream, 70% of people noticed an improvement.

...50% OF THE PPL THAT TRIED THE ALPHA NOTICED AN IMPROVEMENT!

I wasn't one of the lucky 50% of alpha patch testers but I'm sure my hairline has stopped receding and I have less wrinkles.

I re-installed the latest version from Steam yesterady (clean install) and got a CTD on startup, won't run at all. Updated to the Beta/Alpha, whatever you want to call it and got stuttering hell on medium to low settings. I'll come back later when it's fixed and the bickering has stopped. Wonder when that will be?

Glo