The unfortunate turth

#1 05-09-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Maybe just maybe it because they have spent the last 7 months redoing the engine...

Redoing what? it is still the same... come on... still CTD, still stutters, still awful textures... how you know it is new engine, when it looks even worse than before, cuz they tuned down texture quality and no-clouds?

carguy_ · #2 05-09-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Opitz

Redoing what? it is still the same... come on... still CTD, still stutters, still awful textures... how you know it is new engine, when it looks even worse than before, cuz they tuned down texture quality and no-clouds?

Ok then. The same question again for you : what part of alpha patch do you not understand?

#3 05-09-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by carguy_

Ok then. The same question again for you : what part of alpha patch do you not understand?

it is alpha version of beta patch - FAIL... what they will release next - next alpha patch to test again? when?

JG52Krupi · #4 05-09-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Opitz

it is alpha version of beta patch - FAIL... what they will release next - next alpha patch to test again? when?

Proving once more that you don't understand that this is not meant to fix everything just help them fix the CTD.

Wolf_Rider · #5 05-09-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Opitz

it is alpha version of beta patch - FAIL... what they will release next - next alpha patch to test again? when?

That is usually what happens... then maybe another one, then the Beta arrives, which requires further testing... get it?

PotNoodles · #6 05-09-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by carguy_

Ok then. The same question again for you : what part of alpha patch do you not understand?

the part I don't understand is why release a patch that is suppose to double the FPS when you know that it's going to stutter and effect FPS because the Grass/Clouds/Trees are not fixed? Especially when these things are supposed to be getting fixed within days. Bit silly to do that don't you think?

carguy_ · #7 05-09-2012, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PotNoodles

the part I don't understand is why release a patch that is suppose to double the FPS when you know that it's going to stutter and effect FPS because the Grass/Clouds/Trees are not fixed? Especially when these things are supposed to be getting fixed within days. Bit silly to do that don't you think?

Maybe they wanted to isolate some issues and see if the version with some features turned off will be rid of them? That`s the way testing is done.

I`m not sure if they wrote it anywhere, but my understanding is that they`ve asked us to help. Those who are willing to help. You are obviosly not willing to do that. Why causing chaos to those who want to help?

JG52Uther · #8 05-09-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by carguy_

they`ve asked us to help. Those who are willing to help. You are obviosly not willing to do that. Why causing chaos to those who want to help?

QFT. I believe the purpose of this alpha patch is to try and nail down CTD bugs. If you don't want to help, or can't help, then its probably best not to install it, and just let the people who do want to help just get on with it.
For me this patch is not for playing CoD, but for testing CoD, and trying to fix the CTD's some are having.Not all, some, including me. If I can help in any way, by sending in crash files and logs I will.

Mysticpuma · #9 05-09-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Uther

QFT. I believe the purpose of this alpha patch is to try and nail down CTD bugs. If you don't want to help, or can't help, then its probably best not to install it, and just let the people who do want to help just get on with it.
For me this patch is not for playing CoD, but for testing CoD, and trying to fix the CTD's some are having.Not all, some, including me. If I can help in any way, by sending in crash files and logs I will.

I understand where you are coming from here Uther, but currently I am beta testing War thunder and they are not releasing it to the public yet because they want to nail down the netcode, bugs, features all at a steady rate.

About every 3-days (sometimes daily) Gaijin are updating their software to fix bug reports. Now that's service!

The thing is Cliffs of Dover is already out, people have paid money for it and now they are being asked to Alpha and beta test it.

We all now a Patch can bring it's own issues but the original release of Cliffs of Dover has never been stable (to release 'Gold' standard), there have always been crashes, features missing, in a nutshell it was not ready!

Now 14-months down the line, here's a release from 1C that they cross their fingers will do a job that should have been done before release....but here's the 'get out clause', they'll call it an Alpha/Beta and that way when the issues are still not resolved, well, it's not their fault as it was only a Alpha/Beta patch. not the full one we have waited for since release day?

I already stated, I'm 'on the hook', I will patch and I will buy the BoM in the hope I can actually have a working Simulation (and if they can get it stable...what a simulation!) but really, so long since it's release and we are still at 'sticking plaster' stage? It's not a really a good show is it?

I had hoped by now, not to be Beta testing software on a paid for release. I think if any of the patches had made the game as it should have been released AND THEN we were Alpha/Beta testing a new feature/update/effect that would be more than acceptable, it's just that currently the Software is still being fixed to bring it up to how it should have been released.

It's more a question of trust I think?

Do you trust them to part with more money when BoM comes out. Sadly (as I mentioned about the Hook) I think most players who hope for a sim will no-doubt spend their money (I already said I will), but this is just because I live in hope of the halcyon days of IL2. Whether BoM will fix CloD, I don't know, but for those who aren't willing to take that step, it really is sad that nearly a year-and-a-half since release, the software is still missing the dynamic weather (promised but now not coming until BoM) and the developer's are asking the community to Alpha/Beta test the software.

MP

carguy_ · #10 05-09-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

I understand where you are coming from here Uther, but currently I am beta testing War thunder and they are not releasing it to the public yet because they want to nail down the netcode, bugs, features all at a steady rate.

About every 3-days (sometimes daily) Gaijin are updating their software to fix bug reports. Now that's service!

So Gajin have the same budget and number of men working on the title as CloD? And who is saying that 1C has good service?

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Now 14-months down the line, here's a release from 1C that they cross their fingers will do a job that should have been done before release....but here's the 'get out clause', they'll call it an Alpha/Beta and that way when the issues are still not resolved, well, it's not their fault as it was only a Alpha/Beta patch. not the full one we have waited for since release day?

Please explain. I don`t understand what you mean. What clause? How? Do you think there won`t be any final patch? On what grounds? Speculation again?