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Old 05-07-2012, 03:29 PM
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I just came across the Blenheim IV Pilot's Notes from September 1939 and according to this the outer fuel tanks are restricted to 100 octane fuel and inner fuel tanks to 87 octane fuel.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:49 PM
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I just came across the Blenheim IV Pilot's Notes from September 1939 and according to this the outer fuel tanks are restricted to 100 octane fuel and inner fuel tanks to 87 octane fuel.
Hi 41Sqn_Banks,

That's interesting. Can you please share a scan if possible and convenient? Thanks. The following document from April 1940 would seem then to be in agreement with the September 1939 Blenheim IV Pilot's Notes:

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Old 05-07-2012, 04:07 PM
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Interesting that it says ALL
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:41 PM
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Which leaves us with the logistical questions which you have so far avoided.
Logistics are critical but they do not answer operational questions.

The only way to answer an operational question is with operational documentation. In this case, the document which details the operation of the aircraft is the Operating Notes. The portion that is a legal document connected to the airworthiness of the aircraft will reflect the latest authorization for the type.

The statement "all Fighter Command was using 100 Octane July 1940" is not backed up by the facts.

The statement "100 Octane was used during the Battle of Britain" is correct and backed up by the facts.

Nothing more needs to be said until you find an earlier dated version of the Operating Notes that specify all operational units.
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:46 PM
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The statement "all Fighter Command was using 100 Octane July 1940" is not backed up by the facts.
Agreed. The Pilot's Notes don't support it, however they also doesn't speak against it. They simply don't tell anything about how widespread the use was.

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Old 05-07-2012, 06:31 PM
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Agreed. The Pilot's Notes don't support it, however they also doesn't speak against it. They simply don't tell anything about how widespread the use was.
There have been hundreds of magazine articles, books, memoirs, journal articles, pilot reports, combat reports...etc, etc. I've read dozens and not one has mentioned the use of 87 octane during combat sorties. 87 octane is a big lie, it is THE BIG LIE perpetrated by people who have an agenda to promote Luftwaffe superiority.

Kurfurst/Crump can't stand the fact that the RAF had massive stocks of 100 octane fuel and converted all their front line fighters to it prior to the battle, while the Luftwaffe didn't. It's that simple.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:37 PM
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Kurfurst/Crump can't stand the fact that the RAF had massive stocks of 100 octane fuel and converted all their front line fighters to it prior to the battle,
I whole heartily agree with the first part, but disagree with the second part.
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:50 PM
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The statement "all Fighter Command was using 100 Octane July 1940" is not backed up by the facts.

The statement "100 Octane was used during the Battle of Britain" is correct and backed up by the facts.
It was certainly well over the 16 squadron you claim.
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:56 PM
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I have a question to all major participants of this thread. When I ask it, I want you to please bear in mind that I am not trolling and do not have an agenda against anyone (except perhaps Osprey... that selective quoting a few pages back really destroyed any credibility you might have had).

Why is it important?

Should there not be 87- and 100-octane variants in the sim regardless?
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:03 PM
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Should there not be 87- and 100-octane variants in the sim regardless?
octane rating choice should be available yes, particularily for mission builders, regarding online it is unlikely anyone would choose anything other than 100 octane.

Why is it important?.....mainly because this is meant to be a BOB simulator and therefore it should accurately represent the state of affairs at the time and not a game for some people to act out an 'alternate version of history' fantasy.

Osprey makes one selective quote and his credibility is destroyed, Kurfurst can dedicate his entire online existense to selective quoting and bias and people take him seriously?
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