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[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

So what part of alpha/beta patch are you still confused about?

It is simple

By DL the alpha/beta patch you are willing to be part of the solution..

The way it works.. If you encounter a problem, send in your log files and your dump files like requested..

If your not able to do that without flying off the handle and acting surprised that a alpha/beta patch has issue..

Than I highly recommend you uninstall the alpha/beta patch and wait for the final release patch..

SAVVY?

Well I can tell you what part I'm confused about. When does the alpha/beta patch actually become the final release patch? This time round? The next time? Or maybe the time after that? Is there ever going to be an ending and a finished game?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

Well I can tell you what part I'm confused about. When does the alpha/beta patch actually become the final release patch? This time round? The next time? Or maybe the time after that? Is there ever going to be an ending and a finished game?

Still confused?

Allow me to make an analogy here..

What your asking them to do is tell us now, how lost their car keys are before they found their car keys

Problem is you don't know how lost your car keys are until you find your car keys

For example..

CASE 1) I lost my car keys once and I went looking for them.. I found them 5 min later upstairs on my desk, at which point I realized I left them there yesterday when I was getting my thumb drive out of my pocket.

CASE 2) I lost my car keys once and I went looking for them.. I found them 6 months later on the ground outside once the snow melted, at which point I realized I must have dropped them when getting out of the car in the snow.

The last thing we want the programer to do is spend 'time' donig a write up AFTER he finds his keys telling us, in great detail, about all the places he looked for his keys before he found his keys! What we do want the programer to do is move onto the next bug as soon as he finds his keys

Long story short, it will be done when it is done.

[adonys]

now guys.. really.. had this patch left you the impression that it was in an "almost ready to release" state for a few weeks?!!

because for me, those words are simply lies, considering the state of the patch.

I'm sorry, but this is the hard truth, which actually hurts more than the state of the patch itself. because it means there's no trust to be put anymore in the words of the developers

PS: I've posted this in some other thread, but actually it fits better in here

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by adonys

now guys.. really.. had this patch left you the impression that it was in an "almost ready to release" state for a few weeks?!!

because for me, those words are simply lies, considering the state of the patch.

I'm sorry, but this is the hard truth, which actually hurts more than the state of the patch itself. because it means there's no trust to be put anymore in the words of the developers

PS: I've posted this in some other thread, but actually it fits better in here

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...7&postcount=17

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by adonys

because for me, those words are simply lies, considering the state of the patch.

And above is a perfect example of someone that is part of the problem.

Calling the devs liars because you don't understand software development is not helping the situation. Download the alpha/beta patch, run it, when you encounter an error, send in the log and dump files. It is that easy! If you are not capable of doing that without having a hissyfit break down, than wait for the final patch.

[Meusli]

Originally Posted by adonys

now guys.. really.. had this patch left you the impression that it was in an "almost ready to release" state for a few weeks?!!

because for me, those words are simply lies, considering the state of the patch.

I'm sorry, but this is the hard truth, which actually hurts more than the state of the patch itself. because it means there's no trust to be put anymore in the words of the developers

PS: I've posted this in some other thread, but actually it fits better in here

This is an ALPHA patch.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Who told you it was an Alpha patch?

It might help if you actually read what BlackSix wrote.. allow me to quote him below

Originally Posted by BlackSix

BETA PATCH v1.06.17582 - May 05, 2012
The patch is ready! What we have today is a DX10-only alpha. DX9 support is specifically removed. If you are running DX9, do not apply the patch!

The main purpose of the alpha is to find and squash any remaining or new bugs, especially crash bugs. The most common of the infamous launcher crashes have been fixed, but a few very hard to catch bugs remain. On average, a full day of flying causes about 0.8 crashes, and our internal testing has not yet provided the crash logs needed to zero in on the issue.

Please enable logging in your conf.ini (Log=1). If the game crashes, send us your log as well as any crash dump files created in the cppdump folder in the main game installation.

note the word 'alpha' in the first line AND second line

Does this help clear up your confusion of the state/status of this patch?

Hope so! But if you forget anytime in the near future, I updated my sig for you and yours

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

lol, look at the title of thread it says " BETA PATCH v1.06.17582 - May 05, 2012"

What part of 'BETA PATCH' do you not understand??
I will put it in my sig to help you.

Tree..

you can spin it any way you want to but it will not change the fact that you did not read BS post to note that he refered to the patch TWICE as a ALPHA patch

Which speaks volumns about all your post wrt to the patch

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Its just dawning on you isn't it, just maybe theres a chance that they are just making it up as they go along?

Hardly

On that note, please don't get mad at me for pointing out to you where 1C stated the patch is an 'alpha' patch

Remember

YOU ASKED US WHERE IT STATED THAT

You got your answer, now your upset? Please

[MBF]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Its just dawning on you isn't it, just maybe theres a chance that they are just making it up as they go along? if you look at the thread you will see i posted only a minute or two after the thread went up, now look and see that the thread as been edited, I saw no mention of Alha when the thread went live.

Regardless of what you want to call it, it is pretty obvious that it is not a release candidate version.

Alpha usually means there is stuff not yet incorporated (seems fitting), beta usually means all the stuff (or almost all of it) is there, but lacks polishing/testing. There is no standard convention for these terms, so everone uses them a bit differently.

Most importantly, they can name it whatever they want, it doesn't change the fact that it is not ready for prime time yet, as they stated in the post.