The unfortunate turth

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Maybe you should only speak for yourself.

Exactally!

It is sad that Tree feels the need to ignore the fact that some people experiences differ from his.

Because the 'truth' is some people are experiencing big improvements!

But Tree can never acknowledge that simple truth because in doing so his purpose in life would be null n void.

All in all this patch with it's mixed bag of results is to be expected from an alpha/beta patch that was release by the devs with the sole purpose of working with customers that 'ARE' experiencing problems so they can find and fix those problem quicker..

Yet Tree and his followers conveniently ignore that simple truth and act as if this was the 'FINAL' patch release and that 1C promised everything was fixed..

It is times like these I really feel for the devs at 1C..

Talk about a loose loose situation.

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Exactally!

It is sad that Tree feels the need to ignore the fact that some people experiences differ from his.

Because the 'truth' is some people are experiencing big improvements!

But Tree can never acknowledge that simple truth because in doing so his purpose in life would be null n void.

All in all this patch with it's mixed bag of results is to be expected from an alpha/beta patch that was release by the devs with the sole purpose of working with customers that 'ARE' experiencing problems so they can find and fix those problem quicker..

Yet Tree and his followers conveniently ignore that simple truth and act as if this was the 'FINAL' patch release and that 1C promised everything was fixed..

It is times like these I really feel for the devs at 1C..

Talk about a loose loose situation.

According to poll results, 50% have seen the same or worse performance.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

According to poll results, 50% have seen the same or worse performance. It took 7 months to produce that success rate.

So what part of alpha/beta patch are you still confused about?

[MBF]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

I am very confused how after 7 months they could manage to produce such a shambles.

Completely rewritten render pipeline (link)

That is the main reason.

As to why it performs so bad on your videocard... no idea. Since this beta patch makes the game behave differently in so many areas, I would try resetting the config ini and any specific videocard game profile, if you are using any. IMHO it's worth a shot. Or roll back to the current version and wait for the next patch.

[l3uLLDoZeR]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Ive been using the Alpha/Beta game for the last 15 months, the alpha/beta patch for the alpha/beta game as made my alpha/beta game worse. My 50% performance increase as not materialised, the particles that they *fixed* still brings my GTx680 card to its knees. I'm still getting CTD's, I've now got pop up clouds, the cockpit as gone all blurry and i can see through my cockpit in certain areas. Stutters low down are worse and the aircraft details have been turned down. I am very confused how after 7 months they could manage to produce such a shambles.

This sums it up! I want to play this game and have fun, but it seems like that might not ever happen. Most of us have been patient waiting for this fix, but really it seems to be in worse shape 7 months later.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Ive been using the Alpha/Beta game for the last 15 months, the alpha/beta patch for the alpha/beta game as made my alpha/beta game worse. My 50% performance increase as not materialised, the particles that they *fixed* still brings my GTx680 card to its knees. I'm still getting CTD's, I've now got pop up clouds, the cockpit as gone all blurry and i can see through my cockpit in certain areas. Stutters low down are worse and the aircraft details have been turned down. I am very confused how after 7 months they could manage to produce such a shambles.

So what part of alpha/beta patch are you still confused about?

It is simple

By DL the alpha/beta patch you are willing to be part of the solution..

The way it works.. If you encounter a problem, send in your log files and your dump files like requested..

If your not able to do that without flying off the handle and acting surprised that a alpha/beta patch has issue..

Than I highly recommend you uninstall the alpha/beta patch and wait for the final release patch..

SAVVY?

[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

So what part of alpha/beta patch are you still confused about?

It is simple

By DL the alpha/beta patch you are willing to be part of the solution..

The way it works.. If you encounter a problem, send in your log files and your dump files like requested..

If your not able to do that without flying off the handle and acting surprised that a alpha/beta patch has issue..

Than I highly recommend you uninstall the alpha/beta patch and wait for the final release patch..

SAVVY?

Well I can tell you what part I'm confused about. When does the alpha/beta patch actually become the final release patch? This time round? The next time? Or maybe the time after that? Is there ever going to be an ending and a finished game?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

Well I can tell you what part I'm confused about. When does the alpha/beta patch actually become the final release patch? This time round? The next time? Or maybe the time after that? Is there ever going to be an ending and a finished game?

Still confused?

Allow me to make an analogy here..

What your asking them to do is tell us now, how lost their car keys are before they found their car keys

Problem is you don't know how lost your car keys are until you find your car keys

For example..

CASE 1) I lost my car keys once and I went looking for them.. I found them 5 min later upstairs on my desk, at which point I realized I left them there yesterday when I was getting my thumb drive out of my pocket.

CASE 2) I lost my car keys once and I went looking for them.. I found them 6 months later on the ground outside once the snow melted, at which point I realized I must have dropped them when getting out of the car in the snow.

The last thing we want the programer to do is spend 'time' donig a write up AFTER he finds his keys telling us, in great detail, about all the places he looked for his keys before he found his keys! What we do want the programer to do is move onto the next bug as soon as he finds his keys

Long story short, it will be done when it is done.

[adonys]

now guys.. really.. had this patch left you the impression that it was in an "almost ready to release" state for a few weeks?!!

because for me, those words are simply lies, considering the state of the patch.

I'm sorry, but this is the hard truth, which actually hurts more than the state of the patch itself. because it means there's no trust to be put anymore in the words of the developers

PS: I've posted this in some other thread, but actually it fits better in here

[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Still confused?

Allow me to make an analogy here..

What your asking them to do is tell us now, how lost their car keys are before they found their car keys

Problem is you don't know how lost your car keys are until you find your car keys

For example..



The last thing we want the programer to do is spend 'time' donig a write up AFTER he finds his keys telling us, in great detail, about all the places he looked for his keys before he found his keys! What we do want the programer to do is move onto the next bug as soon as he finds his keys

Long story short, it will be done when it is done.

What you talk about here is something you yourself have lost. You are the one responsible for losing your keys. I am talking about purchasing a product and wanting to know when the product I purchased will be fixed? .

I purchase a car and find a fault with it. I take it to the garage i bought it from and they tell me they will repair it within a week or so. A week later I am one happy customer because I will have the car back and rightly so they have fixed it. Now if they told me they will fix it, but that it was going to be upto a year later and beyond, then I would be pretty peed off. The other thing to look at is if this was a car and was a wide spread fault the manufacturer would recall them all.