realistic joystick

[C6_Trollbug]

We gave up the idea of adding the development cost to the price of our Universal Base ... It would double it's price ...
It's hand manufactured nearly for nothing , in France . It's a real replica , not a rough copy .
Don't try to compare it to another joystick .
It's the most expensive , yes , but simply the best .
Everyone makes it's choice .
You can content yourself with an ordinary joystick , vaguely accurate . (and buy another one , one or two tears later)
Or buy the ultimate accuracy and reliability ....

Everyone makes it's choice ...
I've done mine , and I'm not the only one .

C6_Trollbug
member of the Tarmac Aces Team

[Redwulf__32 - Nis]

C6_Trollbug

I am curious to the status of the glider attachment to the universal base, is it out yet?

I'm currently involved in specifying a high level glider simulator for club usage in Denmark (Stewart platform, working panel and collimated wide angle display).

http://www.herningsvaeveflyveklub.dk it's in Danish, sorry

Your products seem to be what we are looking for.

cya around

[JG52Krupi]

I wish they were a bit cheaper i would definatly get one looks so cool ( I know checky ****, if i had that amount of money i would be learning to fly right now )


Seriously if i had the money i would be ordering one right now

[JG52Krupi]

sorry double post

[revi]

ooowwweeee....$$$$$ surely there is a cheaper option??

[SlipBall]

If anyone reading this thread has bought one, please share your thought's about them...and how you make your living

[JVM]

If you consider only the basics (stick + base) this is 780 euros.

This is also the price for:

- 3/4 of minimum monthly netto wages in France, maybe 1/3 to 1/2 average wages (in France)

- the price of a ski week in a lowly resort

- 6 flight hours of a DR400 (7 or 8 out of Paris)

- 1 EOS450D photo camera (Rebel XSi for the other side)

So it is very relative like Trollbug said...don't you think? Oh, by the way those prices include french VAT 19,6%, someone from outside Europe can find a way to pay less I suppose!

One day, I will purchase one...

JV

PS: Believe me, I do not think Tarmac Aces would ever consider making a living at these prices...this is a product somewhere between handicraft and semi industrial stuff, and the quantities would not allow outsourcing casting and other stuff in Asia (a mold is expensive even there!); one cannot compare to Saitek...the choices and objective are totally different and the Saitek of this world would not even try to pull this off, there is just no possible profit for them there...

[bolox]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

If anyone reading this thread has bought one, please share your thought's about them...and how you make your living

ok, i installed my stick and throttle today, replacing a cougar.

first impressions are good, the benefit to immersion by having a full length stick between your legs is worth every penny. the lack of centering springs is unusual after 5 years of getting a work out from the cougar's springs but there is a definite resistance to movement- feels like pushing a bellows or similar and inflight actually feels very good, similar to my limited gliding experience. precision is great, having the long throw- i'm still playing with settings and it generally takes 2 weeks to really settle in with new gear but flew a campaign mission and got 2 kills so it's definately functional.
throttle is very smooth, not so ergonomic as a cougar but feels more like a WW11 plane. the ergonomics of the stick are fantastic, the kink and twist of the stick top just fits your hand- reminds me of the luger.

had to reduce the sensitivity on simpeds as i was overcontrolling rudder with the greater stick movements, add the spring return and it felt a bit like rubbing stomach with one hand and patting head with the other at first
but that's feeling alot more natural now- guess i'll just have to spend more time practicing

probably not suited to the online uber dogfight ace type and tir i'd say is a must (4 buttons no hat) but i'm liking it

to pay for it, i work as a lighting technician (roadie), certainly ain't loaded- i just cut down in other areas to feed my simming habit

[C6_Trollbug]

Originally Posted by Redwulf__32 - Nis

C6_Trollbug

I am curious to the status of the glider attachment to the universal base, is it out yet?

I'm currently involved in specifying a high level glider simulator for club usage in Denmark (Stewart platform, working panel and collimated wide angle display).

http://www.herningsvaeveflyveklub.dk it's in Danish, sorry

Your products seem to be what we are looking for.

cya around

Redwulf , the glider stick pattern is almost ready to be molded . It will soon be available .
At the Montelimar's meeting , some civilian pilots in the real life , and some fans of "Condor Soaring" tried the Universal Base (with my KG13b) , they were enthusiastic about its accuracy and it's "realistic feeling" .

[Redwulf__32 - Nis]

Originally Posted by C6_Trollbug

Redwulf , the glider stick pattern is almost ready to be molded . It will soon be available .
At the Montelimar's meeting , some civilian pilots in the real life , and some fans of "Condor Soaring" tried the Universal Base (with my KG13b) , they were enthusiastic about its accuracy and it's "realistic feeling" .

Very good news, thnx for the head up. We'll be in touch if the board gives us the go-ahead.

BTW we are considering Condor as the flight engine, rumour has it that they have a vastly improved graphics in the works (sucks bigtime atm in MHO), if not - we'll be looking elsewhere, too bad we can't use IL2 (at least if we want to do a glider simulator, doubt we can get the board to finance a WWII sim ).

cya around