The Crystal Ball 2

[Sternjaeger II]

yeah but it still remains that if an actual newbie reads the way people are treated here, he will be like "the hell with these delusional nerds, I'm outta here" and will put the game on the shelf.

And it's not just about delusion or being a nerd/fanboi or whatever, it's about being selfish: some folks here really think that for some reason they're entitled to know better than others what's right or wrong about this sim, looking at minuscule details to avoid realising the biggest, dramatic picture; they're happy if people leaves, so that they can be the undiscussed kings of this mountain of rubbish. Happy for people to leave! Can you imagine anything more counterproductive for a niche product like this?!

It's sad, I'm sure that all that energy could be channeled along better routes, but for some odd reason being aggressive on a forum is so much easier and rewarding for these individuals..

[bongodriver]

Can you imagine anything more counterproductive for a niche product like this?!

A forum filled with uninhibited slander/complaining/whining/other forms of malice, or would you say that these things are not happening? is jumping onto the 'soap box' and shouting at 'everyone' that because you consider the game doomed and <insert criticism od choice> not selfish?

It's sad, I'm sure that all that energy could be channeled along better routes, but for some odd reason being aggressive on a forum is so much easier and rewarding for these individuals..

I just hope you are including both sides of the fence to this statement.

[bongodriver]

I might add I just served my 2 month ban for being an 'uberfanboi'.....didn't notice rallies of support over it.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

I might add I just served my 2 month ban for being an 'uberfanboi'.....didn't notice rallies of support over it.

Wondered where you'd been. Welcome back mate!

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Wondered where you'd been. Welcome back mate!

Thanks Dutch...

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

A forum filled with uninhibited slander/complaining/whining/other forms of malice, or would you say that these things are not happening? is jumping onto the 'soap box' and shouting at 'everyone' that because you consider the game doomed and <insert criticism od choice> not selfish?

I just hope you are including both sides of the fence to this statement.

yeah, this is an observation referred to ALL of us. I don't believe in the fanboy/whiner division, I just think people have different thresholds of "not feeling someone's taking the pi$$ on me", that's it. It's not like we're not all fans, we wouldn't be here, it's that some of us have waited for far too long after far too many promises.

Originally Posted by bongodriver

I might add I just served my 2 month ban for being an 'uberfanboi'.....didn't notice rallies of support over it.

yeah, wondered where you've been lately, place ain't the same without you! But then I thought you needed a bit of a break like I felt I did.. if only it wasn't for those Friday updates

[bongodriver]

it's that some of us have waited for far too long after far too many promises

Believe it or not I can sympathise 100% with that sentiment, I never mean to deny these beliefs or their individual validity, youv'e lost faith and thats entirely your decision.......I don't believe in god but I'm not going to crash my local church and shout 'why am I forsaken?' and tell everyone they are just stupid 'god fanbois'.

yeah, wondered where you've been lately, place ain't the same without you! But then I thought you needed a bit of a break like I felt I did.. if only it wasn't for those Friday updates

Nobody even visited me in prison

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Nobody even visited me in prison

You didn't get the cake I sent you?

You know

The one with the F I L E in it?

Guess the guards found it first?

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

You didn't get the cake I sent you?

You know

The one with the F I L E in it?

Guess the guards found it first?

Oh crap! is that what was in there......it's just as I was being released some guy in a tutu and leather called Tree was just being interned, he looked so sad I gave him the cake.

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

A forum filled with uninhibited slander/complaining/whining/other forms of malice, or would you say that these things are not happening? is jumping onto the 'soap box' and shouting at 'everyone' that because you consider the game doomed and <insert criticism od choice> not selfish?

The reality we have is that some people feel unhappy with the game or aspects of it and feel the need to say so. Other people either are content with the game or resent the sometimes aggressive tone of the complaints.

Honestly, I can see both sides of the argument.

But in all the months it has been raging where has the arguing got anyone? I'm not aware of anyone from either camp having a blinding flash of insight at the outstanding argument put up by the other side, seeing the error of his ways and changing his opinion. Instead it just goes round and round, like goldfish in a tank - apparently unaware that they did exactly the same thing 3 days ago, 2 weeks ago, 4 months ago...

The thing I'd like ALL those who are arguing to realise is that THEY are the ones who are doing most to damage this forum and the game at the present time. It has got totally out of hand - so many threads are being hijacked to provide a vehicle for the point-scoring and one-upmanship. What you - ALL of you - are doing is annoying other forum users and turning them off even wanting to come here.



Two points for the mods. I have started using the ignore list, but

1. It doesn't work unless you are logged in. I usually only log in when I want to post, so it's not always effective.

2. It seems a little unfair to expect two or three hundred other forum users to have to change how they use the forum rather than the six or seven people who cause the problem.