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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-26-2012, 12:51 PM
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Exactly, the whining is annoying, therfore expect to get coplaints about it.
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Exactly, the whining is annoying, therfore expect to get coplaints about it.
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Exactly again, a sugar coated truth is tastier than a rotten lie, much of the whinging is basically wild speculation or lies.
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Exactly again, a sugar coated truth is tastier than a rotten lie, much of the whinging is basically wild speculation or lies.
But a ctd is not a rotten lie im afraid.
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But a ctd is not a rotten lie im afraid.

Quite, nobody ever claimed it as a lie, the only lie is the one about 'everybody' getting ctd's.
either way, since everybody knows ctd's aren't a lie and are painfully aware of them, how many more times does it need mentioning? and I ask this as a person who does get the occasional ctd.
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Exactly again, a sugar coated truth is tastier than a rotten lie, much of the whinging is basically wild speculation or lies.
Agreed 100%
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>>much of the whinging is basically wild speculation or lies<<

Not really, no.

But it allows you to parody it and go riding bareback into the desert called 'Defending the citadel of Clod' (bit of a mouthful for a desert name I think you'll agree) if you portray it this way.

And it deflects from the actual issues at hand, which is what much of this is about.

The more fanciful paranoias and flights of fancy are treated with fairly equal contempt by both sides, I would say. So no need to worry about them too much.

As for the 'he's calling the devs liars, he is! he is! teacher!' - well that's just low-life trying to get people bogged down and banned. And pathetic for all that.

But then this is what happens - you get into nonsense about arguing about the arguments - which this 'defend at all costs' segment of the fans tend to do. Best not to be fooled by this.

But the game itself, and its faults, have a nasty habit of drowning out the crap and meta-arguments, after a while, and bringing things back to the real issues i.e. how much is broken or not working properly, or not present.

In this respect not much has changed one year after release. Read into that what you will.

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>>much of the whinging is basically wild speculation or lies<<

Not really, no.

But it allows you to parody it and go riding bareback into the desert called 'Defending the citadel of Clod' (bit of a mouthful for a desert name I think you'll agree) if you portray it this way.

And it deflects from the actual issues at hand, which is what much of this is about.

The more fanciful paranoias and flights of fancy are treated with fairly equal contempt by both sides, I would say. So no need to worry about them too much.

As for the 'he's calling the devs liars, he is! he is! teacher!' - well that's just low-life trying to get people bogged down and banned. And pathetic for all that.

But then this is what happens - you get into nonsense about arguing about the arguments - which this 'defend at all costs' segment of the fans tend to do. Best not to be fooled by this.

But the game itself, and its faults, have a nasty habit of drowning out the crap and meta-arguments, after a while, and bringing things back to the real issues i.e. how much is broken or not working properly, or not present.

In this respect not much has changed one year after release. Read into that what you will.

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Can anybody here claim to have never seen a ctd in their life before COD? since I have had a PC I have had CTD's blue screens, HD's, GFX cards, RAM, fans, power packs all porked, yet for some reason people are trying to convince us that the COD devs are the inventors of the 'memory leak' and CTD and all known problems with their technology, neither is COD the first game I ever bought in a bad state on release, yet again people are trying to have us believe this didn't happen before COD, the COD devs are not the first I have experienced to be reticent on progress updates, just about every Half life game has been released by surprise and had bugs to boot, but for some reason people are trying to convince us the COD devs are in cahoots with Satan.
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Agreed 100%
But i dont get it why would people be wasting there time on here whinging with false speculation and lies. Wouldnt they rather be out there getting some quality stick time in cus thats all i want to be doing.
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